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by Tenorikuma
Mon May 11, 2015 4:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James ...
Replies: 34
Views: 18426

Re: James ...

Well, I'm going by notes I wrote quite a while ago. 1. According to Hegesippus, James quotes Jesus, "I beseech Thee, Lord God our Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do," while he is being stoned. This detail is from 1 Apoc James (Codex Tchacos). 2. Hippolytus seems to repeat...
by Tenorikuma
Mon May 11, 2015 4:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James ...
Replies: 34
Views: 18426

Re: James ...

His books are useful for tracing some of the James references in early writings, but I don't buy his thesis that James was the Teacher of Righteousness.
by Tenorikuma
Mon May 11, 2015 3:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James ...
Replies: 34
Views: 18426

Re: James ...

I tried that…searched all the patristic fathers and apocrypha for references to anyone named James and put it in a big word processing file. I'm still confused as hell. What stood out, though, is the absence of anyone named James in almost every pre-150 text. Nothing in 1 Clement, 2 Clement, Hermas,...
by Tenorikuma
Sun May 10, 2015 10:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Denigration as historicizing ?
Replies: 2
Views: 4143

Re: Denigration as historicizing ?

I'm not completely sure what you're asking, but I don't think denigration had anything to do with it. Under this hypothesis, it would be completely natural for displaced Essenes, Sadducees and other sectarians who mingled with the Christ cult to regard the martyred Jesus/Joshua as completely human, ...
by Tenorikuma
Sun May 10, 2015 10:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James ...
Replies: 34
Views: 18426

Re: James ...

Figuring out who all the different Jameses were is a big headache, because even the earliest Christian writers were confused. The Gospels and Acts never suggest that either of the disciples named James nor the James who takes over the Jerusalem church in Acts was related to Jesus. That seems to be a...
by Tenorikuma
Thu May 07, 2015 6:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion
Replies: 95
Views: 47308

Re: Scapegoat Sacrifice and the Crucifixion

Have you guys read Paul and the Law by Raisanen? Any argument about Paul's beliefs needs to acknowledge how incoherent he was.
by Tenorikuma
Thu May 07, 2015 1:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?
Replies: 69
Views: 61391

Re: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?

The only thing I would say is a "waste of time" is any Synoptic solution that doesn't take Mcn into account at all. Which describes most of the "non-hobbyist" studies published by tenured professors with alphabet soup after their names.
by Tenorikuma
Thu May 07, 2015 12:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?
Replies: 69
Views: 61391

Re: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?

What a shame that Klinghardts' new book costs over $200.
by Tenorikuma
Thu May 07, 2015 12:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?
Replies: 69
Views: 61391

Re: A Marcionite Antithesis behind Jesus Bar-Abbas?

In the limited synoptic passages I have examined so far on my own, I have also concluded that Mcn was based on Mark, and Matthew in turn was based either on Mcn or proto-Luke (precursor to Mcn). Canonical Luke, in turn, was a revision either of proto-Luke or of Mcn with additions from Josephus, Matt...