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- Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Word According To Garp. Big Editing in the First Gospel
- Replies: 31
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Re: The Word According To Garp. Big Editing in the First Gos
No and because of my poor English there never will be one.
- Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Word According To Garp. Big Editing in the First Gospel
- Replies: 31
- Views: 22149
- Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9178
Re: What!? He Said
Since "Mark" does have overall themes of Jesus being "the son of man" and "lord" I think the best you can do here is what ASV has "so that the Son of man is lord even of the sabbath". "Son of man" refers to Jesus, "lord" is Jesus' relation...
- Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
- Replies: 210
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Re: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
Our Bernard has quoted a nice list of similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy (as a counterargument). Even if you disagree with him, it's great fun! Note especially the last point. Don't tell me. Bernard completely sidesteps Carrier's and dozens of other scholars' arguments related to the literary...
- Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9178
Re: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
Note that the genitive form is within the phrase. This phrase has the exact same form within the question of this Thread. This suggests that the genitive relationship of the larger phrase of this Thread is only that the lord is possessive of the Sabbath. The Greek "καὶ" has a broader mean...
- Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
- Replies: 210
- Views: 195722
Re: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
Our Bernard has quoted a nice list of similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy (as a counterargument). Even if you disagree with him, it's great fun! Note especially the last point.
- Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:13 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9178
Re: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
as a side note John seems to be a good interpreter of Mark Mark 2:24 – 3:6 John 5:16-21 Against inquisitors of the Sabbath 2:24 And the Pharisees were saying to him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” 5:16 And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was do...
- Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9178
Re: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
From what I understand of Greek grammar, I don't think it is possible to read 2:28 as referring to a "son of the Sabbath" ... Why? Further, keep in mind that "Son of Man" would have been rendered in nomina sacra , not spelled out. That makes the proposed reading even more tortur...
- Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9178
Re: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
It seems counterintuitive not to see two genitives being joined by the καὶ and modifying υἱὸς. Yes, that is exactly the point. It seems that without context no one would translate with "is Lord even of the Sabbath". :mrgreen: I think they take the greater context of the passage as decisiv...
- Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9178
Re: Mark 2:28 Son of the Sabbath or Lord of the Sabbath?
Similarly, "Mark" (author) invokes the name "David" a few more times than he does "Isaiah" and again appears to have a connected theme which supports the answer to the question of this Thread as "42", er, sorry, that "Lord of the Sabbath" is "M...