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by steve43
Sat May 10, 2014 5:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating the synoptic gospels of the New Testament
Replies: 43
Views: 26440

Re: Dating the synoptic gospels of the New Testament

Rapture is apparently an inflammatory word.

Second Coming covers it, I think.
by steve43
Sat May 10, 2014 11:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating the synoptic gospels of the New Testament
Replies: 43
Views: 26440

Re: Dating the synoptic gospels of the New Testament

A reasonable question is when would people stop waiting for Jesus' return and the rapture? Three years? Five years? Certainly ten years would be enough to temper the hopes of the most fervent of believers. The more industrious and practical Christians would then document what they saw and/or learned...
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 2:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A smoking gun against the JC historicists?
Replies: 160
Views: 116157

Re: A smoking gun against the JC historicists?

The gospel writers were obviously literate. I'm sure they would have had some knowledge of the history of at least the century before their birth. From what source? According to the Steinsaltz Talmud, Jewish boys were taught Hebrew language only, and history was limited to that given in the Bible. ...
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 12:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historical Jesus and Historical Tank Man: A Similitude?
Replies: 67
Views: 38783

Re: Historical Jesus and Historical Tank Man: A Similitude?

Would you say that the "default" mode on Josephus is to accept what he says unless there is FIRST-LEVEL evidence to the contrary?

If you want supportive evidence before believing what he writes, you are left with virtually nothing.
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 12:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Metacrock is still apologizing...
Replies: 252
Views: 166911

Re: Metacrock is still apologizing...

He has a lot of energy, I'll give him that.
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 11:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mentalflatliner - what is reasonable?
Replies: 79
Views: 43395

Re: Mentalflatliner - what is reasonable?

Luke admits that he relied on eyewitnesses and other sources as veracious as he could determine. So we have an automatic "out" for any inaccuracies. For instance, Jesus' teaching the Second Temple as a young boy almost certainly came from Josephus- which he himself repeated in his' "...
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 9:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mentalflatliner - what is reasonable?
Replies: 79
Views: 43395

Re: Mentalflatliner - what is reasonable?

Luke admits that he relied on eyewitnesses and other sources as veracious as he could determine. So we have an automatic "out" for any inaccuracies. For instance, Jesus' teaching the Second Temple as a young boy almost certainly came from Josephus- which he himself repeated in his' "L...
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 9:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: DSS Teacher of Righteousness and the Josephan James
Replies: 9
Views: 10041

Re: DSS Teacher of Righteousness and the Josephan James

slightly OT- In looking at the characters in the history of the period, there are easily a dozen that would make for GREAT central characters in movies. In fact, Jesus is almost a throw-away secondary character in the secular grand scheme of things. We have the early Christians to thank for that. Th...
by steve43
Thu May 08, 2014 9:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book
Replies: 571
Views: 350633

Re: Thoughts on Maurice Casey's new book

Welcome, Flatliner.

You are a breath of fresh air.

There is a lot of magical thinking and frank delusion on this board- and in the "Jesus" field in general.

Your work is cut out for you!