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But we have what we have, and this is the sense I make of it. Fair enough, I might quibble a bit more, but let's face it, we don't have much to go on here, and there's plenty of room to disagree. I'll take my own advice for once and admit that I've run out of any solid evidence to persuade you othe...

Why do I keep hearing people say that the "oldest" manuscripts don't have 7:19? You are talking to the wrong people ;-) Don't take anything I say uncritically either. I *would*, however, read Metzger and take him very seriously. In any event, if that's not the case, I am fine with 7:19 be...

I'd pick what Papias says about Judas over what the NT Matthew says. If the story Papias heard differs from the NT Matthew, I'm inclined to think that the NT Matthew didn't exist yet. Ok, great, let's go with that then. If Canonical Matthew didn't yet exist when Papias was writing, that means a cou...

I gather it's not in the oldest Greek manuscripts, This from: https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/was-thus-he-declared-all-foods-clean-inserted-by-man-mark-719/ an overtly apologetic website: The chart reveals that four very old and reliable manuscripts do contain the Greek s...

Part of the problem is that we know so little about the Simonians and their teaching. yup. And what little we know comes to us from their competitors, the proto-orthodox heresy hunters. But even so, I think we know enough about them and that there are enough tell-tale traces still in GMark for us t...

Yes. My mitochondrial DNA. Hmmm....your mitochondrial DNA wasn't produced during your great----grandmother'r era. So its not PRIMARY EVIDENCE. Here, read this helpful tutorial somebody sent me on what is primary evidence, and have another stab at answering the question: What is qualified as PRIMARY...

[quote="Leucius Charinus" post_id=161187
I am happy to follow the scientific dating over the dating by means of dogma.
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You will have to give serious answers to all my serious questions before I can take you seriously, Lucy.

To clarify, I feel that a reliance on accepted chronological dates for earliest XCaninty is a logical trap. Not to the extent of Pete, but still a stumbling block for better understanding of the history of the religion. M2cents. You are hardly alone in that! But understanding the history of anythin...

I'm not seeing anything here that suggests that Papias did not value books, Perhaps you aren't familiar with the expression "tout-court"? Pardon my french. I'll rephrase: I never said Papias didn't like ALL books. I still need to take a fresh look at Apollinaris regarding what Papias says...

Whoever made this parenthetical remark does not appear to have understood the issue that the Pharisees had with Jesus. Wow. Are you sure you want to go there man? First of all, you can make the text say anything you want if you just start crossing out the lines which contradict your beliefs. Second...