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- Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Dating Paul's letters
- Replies: 92
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Re: Dating Paul's letters
LOL, identifying Paul with historical figures is exactly where I I start laughing at the conspiracy theorists. If there was an actual Paul behind the legend then he was likely one of two figures: a widely traveled evangelist or a sedentary monkish scholar who taught at some seminary type compound. I...
- Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:03 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
- Views: 43241
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A prototype is necessary for the construction of Matthew, Mark and the Marcionite gospel, but completely unnecessary for the compositions of John (both versions) and Luke I agree with the gist of your analysis here, but wonder about this sentence 1) How can you make such a great distinction between...
- Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
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There is too much overlap. Can you elaborate on this point? I meant overlap in specific words, phrases and order across the synoptic gospels (Marcionite, Matthew, Mark, Luke). You are left with two choices, either they copied each other or they worked from some common (though variant from document ...
- Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
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There is too much overlap. Can you elaborate on this point? I meant overlap in specific words, phrases and order across the synoptic gospels (Marcionite, Matthew, Mark, Luke). You are left with two choices, either they copied each other or they worked from some common (though variant from document ...
- Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
- Views: 43241
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But I fully acknowledge Christianity grew out of some splinter of Judaism. And that of course it had to have started with at least some Aramaic speakers and Hebrew writers. The question for me is, at what stage of the prototype gospel formation did the language switch to Greek? Was the entire proje...
- Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
- Views: 43241
Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
I remember that Stuart wrote that in the Gospels the polemic with the pharisees was really a polemic with Christian Judaizers, the Pharisees being a cipher for the Judaizers. Point of clarification, so that no one overstates my opinions. The Pharisees as "Judaizing" Christian Priests/Mini...
- Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
- Views: 43241
Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
I think we've gotten off into the weeds. There is more consensus when we scale back the definition of the original synoptic. If we are talking about a pre-canonical prototype, and not using biased language then we see many differences start to diminish. For example, many substitute Mark for a "...
- Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
- Views: 43241
Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
There also would be a ton of phrases which would work as rhymes, meter, or puns in Hebrew/Aramaic but not work at all in Greek. Yet we see it the other way around. On the other hand, there is some work completed by a French scholar that shows if one replaces much of the Greek text of Mark and Matth...
- Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:01 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: James the Just in the gospel of Thomas.
- Replies: 60
- Views: 49777
Re: James the Just in the gospel of Thomas.
Remember Joe the Plumber ? I do. He was a guy who asked Obama a question in 2008 about business taxes, after which he became, as Wikipedia puts it, "a metaphor for middle-class Americans," especially for the McCain campaign. After this metaphor became "a thing," candidates would...
- Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
- Replies: 119
- Views: 43241
Re: If the synoptic gospels are three different translations of a common Hebrew or Aramaic source
Well if it were true, then Psalms 110:2 would not have been incorrectly handled, as they would not have used the LXX. There also would be a ton of phrases which would work as rhymes, meter, or puns in Hebrew/Aramaic but not work at all in Greek. Yet we see it the other way around. Even with Aramaic ...