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Out of curiosity, how did you arrive at Papias as an author? We have only a few scarps from the ever unreliable Eusubius, claiming to have seen them for his lost books in a catalogue supposedly of Irenaues(1), who is notorious for, well, not getting it right, and later persons such as Jerome (c. 400...

The reason we ignore you (besides your terrible table manners) is you are trying to make an argument from rhetoric to try and discredit much more rigorous analysis of content, including things such as word frequency and patterns that give a distinct and consistent difference between the Marcionite a...

Excellent point and post Ben. This is precisely the argument from vocabulary I speak of about sorting the Synoptic Gospels.

I'd give you a +3 rating for reputation (if we could do that here).

Could it be that Irenaeus is more than one author? And reflects thinking ranging from the beginning of the 3rd century in some parts and the late 3rd century in others, and the 4th century in still others? You are waking up on this point I see. You may yet wake up on the writings in the name of Just...

Peter, I think the start of the Marcionite Gospel had far less disagreement with the opening of Mark than is presented in the theory you are remarking on. First, a caveat, in my view none of the Synoptic Gospels (Marcion, Matthew, Luke, Mark) were original (Mark 1:14-15 pretty much confirms this). F...

Prove the vocabulary is nearly identical between the attested and unattested segments of the Marcionite Gospel. Also prove that the usage of vocabulary that is common is the same between the attested and unattested.

A mechanical argument is the only one I'd consider

Interesting. Not a one of those is attested in the Marcionite Gospel. Suggests this theology was not in the prototype Gospel it was based on.

None are pristine. You create a straw man because I reject your analysis, by making false claims about my positions. This is why I call you an unscrupulous liar.

You do need therapy. On that I agree

Spin, As an acquaintance and off and on correspondent with Dr. Detering, I can say that Detering only subscribes to the characters in the NT writings being legendary fictions. He does not subscribe in the least box that says the writings were "A tool for deceiving & manipulating people.&quo...

I am glad you are becoming aware of the problems of dating and authorship of the Patristics. This applies to ALL of them howevere. And the interpolation and adjustments started before Eusubius (blatant examples start with anti-Manichean elements littering Justin and Irenaeus) and continued up throug...