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by Stuart
Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Vinzent on unifying Patristics & the NT via Marcion
Replies: 13
Views: 6727

Re: Vinzent on unifying Patristics & the NT via Marcion

Vinzent makes a mistake in his assessment of Marcionite priority when he states "Marcion was the initiator and cult-founder of Christianity" The meaning of Marcionite priority is that the Marcionite versions of the published -that is public- were first. There are many mechanical reasons to...
by Stuart
Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Cumulative Weight of Early Witness for Difficult Readings
Replies: 19
Views: 21204

Re: Cumulative Weight of Early Witness for Difficult Reading

spin wrote:
Stuart wrote:Joe wrote "ided" which is a typo of some form...
(Try putting the first two letters in capitals.)[
:oops: :facepalm: Thanks for the second pair of eyes. (At least my choice "named" works in it's place.)
by Stuart
Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:18 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Violence and fundamentalism
Replies: 3
Views: 9738

Re: Violence and fundamentalism

Atheist tend to be violent. Look at the Communists and the prisons. It doesn't fit Neil's rose colored kumbayah view of atheism bringing peace. But it is what it is. The one positive about religion is to give an emotional understanding of right and wrong within a system. If enough people have a simi...
by Stuart
Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Alice Whealey And The Testimonium Flavianum
Replies: 26
Views: 21783

Re: Alice Whealey And The Testimonium Flavianum

Mr. Sites is violating the terms of the forum. He is not here for discussion but monetary promotion. I think this is a pretty clear cut case for banning, or at least a time out.

Where are the mods?
by Stuart
Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Cumulative Weight of Early Witness for Difficult Readings
Replies: 19
Views: 21204

Re: Cumulative Weight of Early Witness for Difficult Reading

Joe Wallack's chart included this "Significant Difference?" Yes. Since GMark starts with Jesus' supposed baptism and Jesus is explicitly named (1) as the son of God at the baptism the issue of the timing of Jesus' status was/is a crucial issue for Christianity. Especially with GMark being ...
by Stuart
Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Aristotle's dictum", source?
Replies: 2
Views: 3271

Re: "Aristotle's dictum", source?

I think you meant to post this on Classical texts
by Stuart
Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Price about proto-Mark without John the Baptist
Replies: 3
Views: 2405

Re: Price about proto-Mark without John the Baptist

I have not read the book, but I can guess the reasoning behind Price's reconstruction, which I suspect ties to Marcionite priority in some way. If that is the case, then he is mistaken. It is more likely the Marcionite author removed the baptism scene from his source than a post-first edition Mark a...
by Stuart
Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John 2:1-11, The wedding at Cana, who is the bridegroom?
Replies: 10
Views: 7667

Re: John 2:1-11, The wedding at Cana, who is the bridegroom?

I do see it as a 2nd century book written in response to Matthew, which itself was in response to the Marcionite (and Luke a response to all three), so sometime in the later part of Antoninus' reign or early in Lucius Verus. But while the author has a trajectory toward Valentinianism, I think that s...
by Stuart
Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John 2:1-11, The wedding at Cana, who is the bridegroom?
Replies: 10
Views: 7667

Re: John 2:1-11, The wedding at Cana, who is the bridegroom?

My take on it: The Gospel of John everywhere rejects Matthews presentation item by item, and does so deliberately and explicitly. If you look at the elements in John's story, you can see they are derived from the sayings in Matthew 9:15-17 (Luke 5:34-38 ... it will reject verse 5:39), and makes use ...
by Stuart
Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another text, another story
Replies: 35
Views: 24025

Re: Another text, another story

There's a simple explanation here. "Mark" (author) with the original related narrative is simply following his source here: 1 Corinthians 11:23 For I received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; (ASV) No m...