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by Stuart
Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Julian's attempt at rebuilding temple and Christian legens
Replies: 28
Views: 28520

Re: Julian's attempt at rebuilding temple and Christian lege

Aelia Capitolina was not built on the Jerusalem site but just north of it. Nothing pre-Roman or pre-Byzantine has been found under the old city. By contrast just to the south of the walls they have found Gihon, Siloam, and Herod's palace (to the west). I tend to believe the thesis that what we call ...
by Stuart
Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Porphyry, "Against the Christians" new edition of fragments
Replies: 4
Views: 9948

Re: Porphyry, "Against the Christians" new edition of fragme

Hoffman has two books of note, one on Celsus (I have, excellent) and this one on Porphyry https://books.google.com/books/about/Porphyry_s_Against_the_Christians.html?id=XYJ9QgAACAAJ I think the price is steep at $45 and $20 kindle, so I'd use my local library extension. Oxford rips off readers with ...
by Stuart
Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Please give me some feedback
Replies: 19
Views: 12134

Re: Please give me some feedback

Peter, I do think it would be constructive if you had an alternate (Dutch Radical) Radical proposed timeline. It is the strongest competitor and the foundations date back to Van Manen at the very end of the 18th century. The viewpoint continues to resurface and has considerable traction today. I wou...
by Stuart
Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Two Witnesses
Replies: 10
Views: 8361

Re: Two Witnesses

I presume you are referring to Revelation 11:1-14, an d the mention in verse 11:3 of two witnesses (by the voice from heaven) And I will grant (δώσω) my two witnesses (δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου) ... Well to start this, let's look at Wikipedia, that sometimes accurate, sometimes randoms source. https://en.w...
by Stuart
Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Proof that Marcion's Gospel was Diatessaronic
Replies: 15
Views: 6304

Re: Another Proof that Marcion's Gospel was Diatessaronic

Stephen, This is not a "proof" in any sense of the word. You clearly lack a mathematical background, and I guess didn't take (or if you did, didn't grasp conceptually) any logic classes. If you did you would instantly recognize that the above is not a proof, but a smattering of anecdotal c...
by Stuart
Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why are the pharisees enemies of Jesus?
Replies: 11
Views: 6551

Re: Why are the pharisees enemies of Jesus?

If you want a radical criticism point of view, based on internal Christian politics of the 2nd century I can give it. But be aware this is based on a few premises: 1. the New Testament is mid-2nd century to late 2nd century literature 2. the characters in the literature have both legendary and liter...
by Stuart
Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Luke prior to Gospel of Marcion ?
Replies: 173
Views: 69039

Re: Luke prior to Gospel of Marcion ?

The one in Luke 14:53 is far from secure. It comes from the problematic part 5 of Dialogue Adamantius in the Greek (See Clabeaux, who rejects all of part five supposed Marcionite readings). However the text in Adamantius is not original, as it includes late (very post Marcionite) text variants, incl...
by Stuart
Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Luke prior to Gospel of Marcion ?
Replies: 173
Views: 69039

Re: Luke prior to Gospel of Marcion ?

I think the issue should have been settled by Knox in the 1940s. And to illustrate lets do a little exrecise: The Gospel of Luke has 19,482 Greek words in it (we can quibble over 200 or 300 words, but no matter). The Marcionite Gospel was at least 1/3rd fewer words, so lets say for the sake of argum...
by Stuart
Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "the brothers who were in Pontus": Marcion's? John's? Both?
Replies: 31
Views: 18984

Re: "the brothers who were in Pontus": Marcion's? John's? Bo

Yes Ignatius is legend. It used to be accepted the writings were 4th century, and that is still probably true. Yes, I dodged the ranking of Church Fathers. But mostly because Stephen is attempting to wedge. There is value in the sum of the descriptions of various groups. But they need to be tested a...
by Stuart
Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "the brothers who were in Pontus": Marcion's? John's? Both?
Replies: 31
Views: 18984

Re: "the brothers who were in Pontus": Marcion's? John's? Bo

You have my position quite wrong. I see Marcion, if he existed, So you are open to the possibility that Marcion never existed. That in itself is a positive development. as one of many heretical teachers. They only thing that makes him stand out is he had his own Canon, which is useful when trying t...