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by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:54 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 116961

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

I am still at a loss to see why the group has to be named 'the doers of the law' based on the evidence you've cited. Why couldn't they be Sadducees or 'those of Ishu'? How is there any 'exactness' about the name of the group from this evidence?
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion Justin and Tertullian
Replies: 69
Views: 38483

Re: Marcion Justin and Tertullian

Either Tertullian wrote the Five Books himself end to end or he reused older material. The fact that the text accuses Marcion of deleting things now only found in Matthew does not mean (a) that the material derived from Matthew or (b) that the original author who said 'Marcion deleted X' understood ...
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:32 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 116961

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

I think we can say with confidence that the passages I cited that concern "the Liar" demonstrate clearly that the DSS sect (aka 'doers of the law') were opposed by someone associated with them who said "don't do the law." This is the sense I get ... Do you recognize the contradi...
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion Justin and Tertullian
Replies: 69
Views: 38483

Re: Marcion Justin and Tertullian

Or it could be a corrupted (twice over) Diatessaron based commentary like Ephrem's originally.
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Non-HJ Interpretation of Paul's Letters
Replies: 51
Views: 76488

Re: A Non-HJ Interpretation of Paul's Letters

The same word appears in Gal 4:9 to be formed  CPA, Syr. AphDem18.351ܕܼܲܡܵܐ ܕܿܢܸܬܿܬܿܨܼܝܪ ܒܿܟܼܐ܃  until the Messiah is formed in you
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Non-HJ Interpretation of Paul's Letters
Replies: 51
Views: 76488

Re: A Non-HJ Interpretation of Paul's Letters

Marqe takes tsur (rock) as an Aramaic word to argue that that form or image of God was present
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion Justin and Tertullian
Replies: 69
Views: 38483

Re: Marcion Justin and Tertullian

comparing Marcion's Gospel against his own, which could be either Matthew or, as several has said is more likely, a harmony of Matthew, Mark, and/or Luke (canonical version with infancy stuff - maybe John too, tough question). why does all of this follow? Why does it have to be about 'Matthew,' 'Ma...
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:49 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 116961

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

But this is exactly what happened to the 'doers of the law' sect in the DSS Really? I've read the Qumran material. I don't see how we can use the word 'exactly' (i.e. that everything is crystal clear) when: 1. we don't know when the texts were written (i.e. to what age/historical circumstance they ...
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:22 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus an Essene?
Replies: 162
Views: 116961

Re: Was Jesus an Essene?

Why do you have such a dislike for considering other possibilities other than those you have a vested interested in. The fact that most people have developed a 'connect the dots' between inherited assumptions regarding: 1. John the Baptist as an Essene 2. Jesus as an Essene by way of John and then b...
by Stephan Huller
Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion Justin and Tertullian
Replies: 69
Views: 38483

Re: Marcion Justin and Tertullian

And critical for our understanding of how Tertullian's Five Books developed are the first words which signal to the reader (many of whom might have had the original material as written by someone else in a slightly different form - i.e. not Tertullian): Whatever in times past2 we have wrought in opp...