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- Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
- Replies: 39
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Re: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
Ken, I pick up on coincidences more than some people do. You do; but perhaps you draw more incorrect inferences by overinterpreting data that are, in fact, coincidences, than do people who apply better critical judgment than you do. I was tempted to refer to what you're doing as parallelomania, but...
- Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 44965
Re: What is the real relationship between the Testimonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
For a chiasm, consider this possibility: ... The chiasm runs A B C D D' C' B' A' Well, first off, you've undermined your argument that the Testimonium must be authentic because it's at the center of a chiastic construction. Now we can remove the Testimonium from the outline you've just given and th...
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 44965
Re: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
My thesis is that the passages surrounding the Testamonium are related chiastically and allude cryptically to the N.T. narrative. Other writers over the centuries have noted such allusions, with the story of the Egyptian cult alluding to the virgin birth, the name Paulina as a reference to Paul, an...
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 44965
Re: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
Rakovsky,
Thanks for the reply. Could you clarify what your thesis is. What is it that your argument is supposed to show in its conclusion?
Thanks for the reply. Could you clarify what your thesis is. What is it that your argument is supposed to show in its conclusion?
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:30 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 44965
Re: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
I apologize for getting your name wrong! I spelled it correctly in your thread where I had it in front of me, but incorrectly in this thread where i relied on memory. It's not a coincidence - I am more familiar with the spelling with the final "i". I waited tables in a restaurant named &qu...
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:53 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 44965
Re: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
In the OP, Rakovsky wrote: Some scholars have proposed that the Testamonium sounds out of place, as if it was inserted, but after reading almost all of Josephus' volumes, I don't agree with this impression. Instead, the story of Paulina strongly suggests that the Testamonium was used exactly at this...
- Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is Mark 15:1-16 based on Josephus's Ant. 18:3 ?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 15872
Re: Is Mark 15:1-16 based on Josephus's Ant. 18:3 ?
Perhaps Giuseppe and Rakovsky could engage each other's theses on the topic of Antiquities 18.3: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3915&p=83263&hilit=testamonium#p83228 Each could explain the methodology he is employing in analyzing the evidence of Ant. 18.3 and why read...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Baubo and Demeter in Clement's Exhortation to the Hellenes
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4112
Baubo and Demeter in Clement's Exhortation to the Hellenes
Can anyone point me to scholarship on the relationship between Clement's Letter to Theodore and the passage about Baubo and Demeter from the second chapter of Clement's Exhortation to the Hellenes? I see some parallels between Clement's comments on Secret Mark and his interpretation of the mystery c...
- Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Linking "mystery of the kingdom of God" with "forbidden sexual relationships" & secret rites?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 11293
Re: Linking "mystery of the kingdom of God" with "forbidden sexual relationships" & secret rites?
However, the ultimate vindication of his approach would be a text by Clement of Alexandria witnessing to esoteric material going back to the origins of Christianity. Material that is restricted because by spiritual exegesis it reveals heavenly mysteries, but which misguided people would interpret i...
- Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:54 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The seven veils.
- Replies: 42
- Views: 51561
Re: The seven veils.
I can't imagine why.Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:06 pm I have about as much interest in debating the (in)authenticity of Secret Mark as I do of having my eyeballs removed with a pen knife.