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by John2
Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:22 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

John2, I have addressed your proposal. For one thing, 4Q266, 4Q267, 4Q268, 4Q269, 4Q270, 4Q271, 4Q272, 4Q273, 5Q12, 6Q15, 1QpHab, 4Q171 pPs a, 4Q173 pPs b, and 1Q14 pMicah--those that mention the Teacher of Righteousness and/or the Wicked Priest--are mostly earlier than the first century CE. And I'...
by John2
Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Jesus the Teacher of Righteousness?
Replies: 40
Views: 1736

Re: Was Jesus the Teacher of Righteousness?

While I don;t think Fourth Philosophers were the only Jews to ever go out into the wilderness, this is another similarity that Fourth Philosophers, Jesus and the Teacher share. It appears to have been a "thing" in the first century CE. Yes, other Jews have gone out into the wilderness, fro...
by John2
Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:53 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

Apparently, John2, you are not crediting all the evidence for the Teacher and the Priest, much of which is earlier than the first century CE. Why attempt to limit evidence to one c14 report, which may have been contaminated with castor oil. And which, in any case, may be, not an autograph, but a la...
by John2
Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:48 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

The "new covenant" comes from Jeremiah 31. Right. That's where the DSS and Christians (and only the DSS and Christians) got it from. Opposition to oral torah is anti-Pharisee, but Josephus wrote that otherwise the fourth philosophy followed the Pharisees; a plain contradiction. Then Chris...
by John2
Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:53 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

And as I've noted already, 4Q266 has a first century CE carbon date. ... the radiocarbon date from Tuscon for 4Q266 was BP 1954 +/- 38, which after calibration is 4-82 CE at one sigma (44 BCE-129 CE at two sigma). https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Dead_Sea_Scrolls_After_Fifty_Years_V/7vCaDwA...
by John2
Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:11 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

All dates for the DSS are guesses and estimates. Useful, yes, but we also have to factor in the internal data. And as I've noted already, 4Q266 has a first century CE carbon date. ... the radiocarbon date from Tuscon for 4Q266 was BP 1954 +/- 38, which after calibration is 4-82 CE at one sigma (44 B...
by John2
Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:17 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

Who said--besides you--that the Teacher of Righteousness had to teach to gentiles to be called by that name? The Teacher's followers wrote the Damascus Document and that writing accepts Gentiles, the same way that Gentiles are accepted in writings written by Jesus' followers. What writings say that...
by John2
Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

Well, besides what I've already said, Jesus and the Teacher taught to Gentiles. t is important to recognize that the Damascus Document is the only scroll to truly accept the ger at all ... Gentiles are not neutral; their idolatry makes them impure and contaminating. Nevertheless, presumably after an...
by John2
Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

In that respect, I think Jesus is a better candidate for the Teacher than Judah the Essene.
by John2
Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:34 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities
Replies: 163
Views: 110711

Re: "Teacher of Righteousness" and "Wicked Priest" identities

Not when the DSS exhibit these characteristics too.