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It seems the battle of Beth-Zur came after the re dedication which was the Greek 148th year according to Josephus - 164 bc.

The Greek 149th/150th years of Macc 13:1 looks like 163 bc to me. Something doesn't quite come together.

I date the siege of Bethsura to 163bc . Anyone got a refinement on that? Early summer maybe? Relevant texts include 1 Maccabees 6:20, 2 Maccabees 13:1. Are there others? In the year one hundred and forty-nine , Judas understood that Antiochus Eupator was coming with a multitude against Judea, And wi...

Here is a list of his "historiographical criteria by which ancient historians evaluate historical claims and pass judgments about their probability of occurring." 1. Distance from the Event to the Record 2. First-Hand vs. Second-Hand Accounts 3. Oral vs. Textual Sources 4. Genre of Litera...

semiopen wrote:... It seems most likely that Alexander totally bypassed Judah, maybe sending a couple of agents to make sure there was no trouble. Kind of the opposite humiliation that Jews were used to ...

It must be fun rewriting history. Kinda like being a historical fiction writer?

hjalti wrote:Ged, do you disagree with the identification of the kings of the north and south as the Seleucid and Ptolemaic kings?

No, I dont disagree with your statement.

... how could Alexander know what was being told to him? 'Conquered most of the known world but could only communicate in Greek? Like I said to semiclosed; "you're trying hard not to believe it." I have already given reason why I don't believe that Daniel is early dated: its detailed desc...

semiopen wrote:
Alexander reading Daniel is quite possibly Josephus' embellishment of the legend.

Especially if you are trying hard not to believe it.

DCHindley - the book to Alexander is probably his own invention. Kris - Josephus could be relaying a "story" that was going around. Semiopen - Josephus is undoubtedly simply relating a legend. Beowulf - Josephus is nothing more than a traitor and not to be trusted. Heey, scholarly consensu...

There never would have been a late view had it not been for the latter chapters accurately describing events of the Greek era. The real issue has been, "is there such a thing as predictive prophecy?" Liberal Biblical critics think not, so they have to dream up ways of getting chapters 8-1...

I'm not sure if this counts as a middle view but some scholars have distinguished earlier and later material in Daniel. e.g. Daniel chapters 1-7 was written around 300-250 BCE with Daniel 7-12 written around 166 BCE. Andrew Criddle Well, of course, there never would have been a late view had it not...