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by cienfuegos
Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

We don't stop trying to understand the past because the evidence trail decreases. It means your skills set has to be sharper, and you have to rely more on cultural and physical anthropology because you cant even begin to squeak out anything plausible based on limited evidence. Now this is a fact an...
by cienfuegos
Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

to ficino, ?? Galatians 1:4 "the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins..." 2:19-21 "I have been crucified with Christ ... faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me... If justice is available through the law, then Christ died to no purpose..." 3:1 &...
by cienfuegos
Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

You keep throwing Crossan's words out there and then backing off them. I used to be a big fan of Crossan because I liked his social history analysis. In the end though, I feel like his conclusions are similar to those of National Geographic's "Face of Jesus." He has created a composite sk...
by cienfuegos
Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

You have chosen to ignore this information and explanation, Because it doesn't agree with YOUR favored hypothesis. Sheshbazzar Im not interested in bias or conspiracy theories. I'm getting really fed up with your butchery of peoples posts. Don't take it personal, I liked that part of the comment. S...
by cienfuegos
Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

draw the best conclusions they can, given the evidence available, remaining open to revising conclusions should new evidence come to light. Here is the problem that McGrath, as well as some posters here make. McGrath confuses drawing the "best conclusions we can" with sound historical con...
by cienfuegos
Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Isn't Crossan exactly referring to bloggers and forum posters like Spin, DC, or Neil? My context is a compliment to their knowledge. And to show how weak the kids argument is. Don't drag my comment and throw it in the ring with Crossans view on mythicism. Ok, so let's stay on topic: Evidence for th...
by cienfuegos
Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203039

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

I think Crossans take on mythicist sums it up for him What's his take? He comes awfully close in The Power of Parable to mythicism. That most mythcist are an embarrassment to the field. And Im not talking about posters in forums. Im talking about the untrained bloggers and half educated that think ...
by cienfuegos
Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Early Christian Depiction of Jesus as a.God
Replies: 217
Views: 104549

Re: The Early Christian Depiction of Jesus as a.God

You are asking for special standards to be applied in this case: the case of Bible Studies. I would say, sure, because Bible Studies are not about history, but theology. Not asking, just stating what it is. You are refusing to accept that the study of early Christian history should be subject to th...
by cienfuegos
Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Early Christian Depiction of Jesus as a.God
Replies: 217
Views: 104549

Re: The Early Christian Depiction of Jesus as a.God

So you are acknowledging that you are attempting to apply methods that are not standard historical methods, right? We can establish that, right? No. Now your making it up as you go. What we can establish is what I stated before you tried to correct me from either a point of ignorance or bias, in th...
by cienfuegos
Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "The Empty Tomb" - A Greek Play
Replies: 20
Views: 11275

Re: "The Empty Tomb" - A Greek Play

What do you make of the non canonical gospel and acts of the gnostic heretics? I am asking this because I think that is important for anyone who wishes to sketch an hypothesis or theory to answer the mystery of Christian origins to ALSO address the authorship and chronology of the non canonical boo...