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by cienfuegos
Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Myths are not just lies
Replies: 36
Views: 24586

Re: Myths are not just lies

@drg55, Do you consider Socrates a myth? What about Zoroastrian? " The person who put the Hebrew religion into a form from the Hittites was a highly educated person. And Egyptian sources also influenced the OT ."...drg55 Surely the prime suspect would still be Moses who after all was cons...
by cienfuegos
Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus Studies Historiography
Replies: 167
Views: 104574

Re: Jesus Studies Historiography

Modern scholars have concluded that the Canonical Gospels went through four stages in their formation: 1. The first stage was oral, and included various stories about Jesus such as healing the sick, or debating with opponents, as well as parables and teachings. 2. In the second stage, the oral trad...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?
Replies: 66
Views: 30287

Re: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?

Why write a story that has no name for the wonder-doer. No name for any followers/disciples. No mention of the betrayal of Judas. No resurrection on the third day. No mention of the baptism by John the Baptist. No raising of the dead Lazarus. No walking on water. Why write a story so devoid of all ...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus Studies Historiography
Replies: 167
Views: 104574

Re: Jesus Studies Historiography

If our null hypothesis is "Jesus did not exist" it should be very easy to falsify, we should be able to reject this. The problem is that the evidence to do so is not there. The evidence is here, as evidence he did exist (as shown in previous post http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.p...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?
Replies: 66
Views: 30287

Re: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?

Slavonic Josephus Evidence: Josephus Evidence: Not Josephus 1. At that time also a man came forward,—if even it is fitting to call him a man [simply]. 2. His nature as well as his form were a man's; but his showing forth was more than [that] of a man. 3. His works, that is to say, were godly, and h...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?
Replies: 66
Views: 30287

Re: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?

What I would like to see here is what about each of these sections could not have been written by later medieval Russian with gMark and presumably some form of the TF in front of him. This is the table that maryhelena posted before (I think she made it(?)). I have altered it to create space for our ...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?
Replies: 66
Views: 30287

Re: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?

Contrasting, comparing the material in Slavonic Josephus with the gospel Jesus story with the intention of demonstrating a developing Jesus story. No linguistics just storyline compared to storyline. maryhelena, This isn't a methodology. How do you guard against your predetermined outcome? I say &q...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus Studies Historiography
Replies: 167
Views: 104574

Re: Jesus Studies Historiography

The last is a typo. The celestial Jesus theory is falsifiable. ah, ok. The problem is the evidence to falsify the theory doesn't exist. The null hypothesis cannot be rejected. One could imagine the evidence being such that we would be unreasonable in rejecting it (for example, authentic letters wri...
by cienfuegos
Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?
Replies: 66
Views: 30287

Re: Slavonic Josephus: Master-copy of the Jesus Story?

Contrasting, comparing the material in Slavonic Josephus with the gospel Jesus story with the intention of demonstrating a developing Jesus story. No linguistics just storyline compared to storyline. maryhelena, This isn't a methodology. How do you guard against your predetermined outcome? I say &q...
by cienfuegos
Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
Replies: 108
Views: 123440

Re: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum

[quote="MattMoreles]My suggestion is that Josephus expected that most of his readers knew of Christ and the Christians, and if they didn't "don't worry about it." Jesus "called Christ" is barely relevant in the passage, serving only to identify James. Having this James as ex...