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I was a little disappointed that Carrier did not provide a Bayesian analysis of some of the known forgeries. (I may have missed this in which case please correct me). For example I understand Carrier thinks the TF is a forgery. Has he made a case study of this hypothesis using Bayesian stats? I am ...

You don't have to distort what a person says just to disagree with their ideas, Bernard. It doesn't strengthen your arguments and doesn't make you look more more reliable. I completely agree with your reading of Carrier, but I think it's unnecessary to accuse Bernard of (deliberately) distorting hi...

Bernard Muller wrote: I think Carrier shot himself in the foot and totally invalidated his observations from the Rank-Raglan scale about Jesus & others when he declared on page 18: "It's quite common for historical persons to become surrounded by a vast quantity of myth and legend, and ver...

I'm certainly not very experienced with constructing syllogisms, but I don't think that you put your proposed conclusion (minimum historical Jesus) as your major (or minor) premise. I could certainly be wrong, but I would construct this as: P1. Persons with stories that conform highly to the Rank-R...

I think Carrier shot himself in the foot and totally invalidated his observations from the Rank-Raglan scale about Jesus & others when he declared on page 18: "It's quite common for historical persons to become surrounded by a vast quantity of myth and legend, and very rapidly, too, especi...

I think you may be missing the forest here, GDon. The minimal historical Jesus is one of the hypotheses being examined. To evaluate the strength of hypotheses we have to look at all the evidence. The stories written about Jesus are part of the evidence (or background knowledge). These stories don't...

Does anyone have access to this dissertation? It looks really interesting but my library doesn't subscribe to the service. It's $38 &$?! dollars for a pdf! I don't know about you, but if I'm sipping scotch and smoking cuban cigars in front of the fireplace at my winter cottage, I for one certai...

[snip] Carrier writes above that "a historical Jesus is lit­erally unique among all Rank-Raglan heroes." This is what I meant earlier in the thread where I wrote that Carrier was conflating his "minimal historical Jesus" with the 'Rank-Raglan'ized Jesus. They are separate entiti...

Does anyone have access to this dissertation? It looks really interesting but my library doesn't subscribe to the service. It's $38 &$?! dollars for a pdf! http://gradworks.umi.com/36/16/3616102.html The journeys of Siddhartha Gautama and Jesus of Nazareth: Examples of the mythic hero's quest by...

While I can appreciate an agnostic approach, I see more then enough evidence for a historical Jesus in light that every replacement hypothesis for the evidence we have is laughable. Then there is nothing to discuss with you. I take it you are only interested in having fun at mythicist expense. That...