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- Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
[snip] All you have done with the above is cite articles by people using (or misusing..) euhemerism. This approach in these articles would be better labelled 'reverse euhemerism'. Something that Carrier should have considered using and thus avoiding criticism of his usage of the concept of euhemeri...
- Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Here are some other examples of how the word/concept has been used by scholars. The point I'm trying to make is that the terms/concept of euhemerization is used in a variety of situations that basically come down to historicizing a non-historical entity/deity. [All my emphasis] "Mabon is the e...
- Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
- Replies: 175
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
In previous posts I have quoted from articles by Nickolas Roubekas. So, once again, let me remind you of what this scholar says about euhemerism: WHICH EUHEMERISM WILL YOU USE? NICKOLAS P. ROUBEKAS* This paper deals with euhemerism as a theory that has been (mis-) treated in various ways by both an...
- Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Jesus Studies Historiography
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Re: Jesus Studies Historiography
In the absence of the evidence that can corroborate the Gospels (and I do hold that we don't have such evidence), we are left with the plausibility of the hypothesis itself: It does not seem to have even face validity. Could an obscure rural preacher have been executed by Romans and yet ignite a ma...
- Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
- Replies: 175
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
I snipped the remarks I have previousy responded to. In previous posts I have quoted from articles by Nickolas Roubekas. So, once again, let me remind you of what this scholar says about euhemerism: WHICH EUHEMERISM WILL YOU USE? NICKOLAS P. ROUBEKAS* This paper deals with euhemerism as a theory tha...
- Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
I found one instance of use in a scholarly article that answered all my questions in one place (although I've found isolated examples in several places). This is from a translation of an Egyptian folktale that is introduced as follows. http://fontes.lstc.edu/~rklein/Doc5/anubis.htm "The prose ...
- Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Here is where I received my foundation after 3 years of self study and debate. Its a great course by and certain aspects opened my eyes but not like the Rhetoric lesson. http://oyc.yale.edu/religious-studies/rlst-152/lecture-1 Overview This course approaches the New Testament not as scripture, or a...
- Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
- Replies: 175
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
And Crook is wrong/confused about "that Jesus was a historical figure who was euhemerized, that's turned into a god later." He's describing apotheosis. If that's what he understood euhemerization to mean at the time of the debate, then this criticism of Carrier's theory is based on incorr...
- Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
- Replies: 175
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Well, I think I've found answers to my own questions about Carrier's use of the terms related to and concept of euhemerization. My main questions about the modern definition/usage was whether or not euhemerizing entailed 1) It should be a purposeful, conscious application of or belief in Euhemerus' ...
- Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
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Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
b) Because we can't read authors' minds centuries or millennia after they wrote, we can only judge the effects of what they wrote. . You mean we should not go in blind and make assumptions. Most scholars do not, unlike mythicist, most scholars are trained in exactly how these authors were trained b...