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by junego
Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

For the last quote above, Carrier provides a list of off-line sources. Continuing with one final quote: "Euhemerism is mentioned in all major encyclopedias I know. Euhemerization is even in standard dictionaries like Merriam-Webster: to euhemerize is “to interpret (mythology) on the theory of ...
by junego
Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

I found the Youtube clip I was thinking of. It is Richard Carrier's debate with Zeba Crook on whether there was a historical or a mythical Jesus, called "Jesus of Nazareth: Man or myth?" Crook is a professor of religious studies, and an atheist. He proposes that the evidence suggests that...
by junego
Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

b) Because we can't read authors' minds centuries or millennia after they wrote, we can only judge the effects of what they wrote. . You mean we should not go in blind and make assumptions. Most scholars do not, unlike mythicist, most scholars are trained in exactly how these authors were trained b...
by junego
Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The disciple whom Jesus loved
Replies: 17
Views: 14235

Re: The disciple whom Jesus loved

... the overriding conscensus is that the work was written most likely around 90-100AD, and that in the original 'signs' portion was written earlier, around 70AD. Can someone walk me through how this 'disciple whom Jesus loved' went from believing in a celestial-only Christ to his followers thinkin...
by junego
Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Note that Euhemerus was considered as an atheist. From Wiki (my bolding): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euhemerism ... Though his work is lost, the reputation of Euhemerus was that he believed that much of Greek mythology could be interpreted as natural or historical events subsequently given supern...
by junego
Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Laying cards on the table...
Replies: 140
Views: 81579

Re: Laying cards on the table...

Agnostic. There is not enough surviving evidence to draw a firm conclusion.
by junego
Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

I don't know of other words to describe what the Doherty-Carrier hypothesis proposes - that there was originally a celestial being who was worshipped by a sect of Jews as the son of god who was subsequently put into a historical setting for unknown reasons, but never actually existed as a human per...
by junego
Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Sigh. maryhelena, note well the very definition you posted. The ancient gods were once mortal kings that were deified due to their good deeds, others during their lifetime and others post mortem. Sigh indeed.....please, when you want to quote someone provide the source. I posted a definition - but ...
by junego
Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 152387

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Taken from another thread: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1018&p=22671#p22671 I have seen the mistaken interpretations of euhemerism...i do think Carrier is using the term correctly. Euhemeros provided historical backgrounds for purely mythological beings. Carrier actual...
by junego
Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Sinaiticus - Hermas, Barnabas linguistic, history anomalies
Replies: 35
Views: 47181

Re: Sinaiticus - Hermas, Barnabas linguistic, history anomal

More, please? This is fascinating info. Thank you for posting it.