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<snip> So ISTM McGrath's "gotcha" just doesn't fit current understanding of the worldview of 1st century Roman Empire even if it's filtered through a Jewish sect. This is McGrath's "gotcha" argument against the Carrier-Doherty mythicist theory. McGrath : There is, however, a com...

Just for argument's sake: Would the crucifixion of Jesus in the firmament necessarily need to correspond to the crucifixion of a person on earth? Could it not correspond to the slaughter of Yahweh's "son," Israel, with the destruction of the temple? Or similar to Hebrews where Christ's sa...

MrMacSon wrote:

junego wrote:

MrMacSon wrote:People playing other people, rather than "the ball".

Sorry, maybe I'm being dense but I don't understand what you mean by this.

a less gender-specific version of "playing the man rather than the ball"

Yep, me being dense. Thx!

I think Goodacre would be the most interesting to hear a review from. Mainly because we know Carrier respects him a great deal. Plus Goodacre's already had a taste of Carrier in that radio debate last year but neither really got the chance to flesh out their ideas behind the broad generalisations. ...

MrMacSon wrote:People playing other people, rather than "the ball".

Sorry, maybe I'm being dense but I don't understand what you mean by this.

And I think this work should be taken seriously. Whether or not Carrier is abrasive or "out for blood" doesn't matter, the analyses and conclusions in "On the Historicity..." are what need to be addressed. If those in NT studies refuse to answer this, then they are conceding the ...

There are 3 reviews of this book that will be interesting to see: Bart Ehrman (for obvious reasons) JP Holding (whom Carrier debated) Robert M Price I suppose the Ehrman and Holding reviews will be negative (or will they avoid even doing reviews so as to not bring attention to the book?). Price's w...

[box] So I'm reading Chapter 9, Part 4, p.375-78... on the supposed lack of historical Jesus references in Paul's trial scenes in Acts (as though that's somehow a big deal). Carrier spends the entire chapter dismissing Acts as historical fiction. Which is fair enough. I think most scholars realise t...