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by Sheshbazzar
Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier vs. Rent-an-Apologist on Historicity of Jesus
Replies: 46
Views: 32621

Re: Carrier vs. Rent-an-Apologist on Historicity of Jesus

even as an atheist I have to concede that the more straight-forward and thus likely reading of Paul is that he believed Jesus had been here on Earth You do realize I hope, that 'Paul' believing a Jesu god once lived on earth, is of no evidence that any such person or god ever DID live on earth. 'Pa...
by Sheshbazzar
Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

I kindly suggest that you ought try perceiving the unity of that 'forest' that all of these 1st century writers were so well aware of. Sheshbazzar I kindly suggest you understand that when people are describing certain trees, a forest need not be mentioned. A pagan who just decided to worship the o...
by Sheshbazzar
Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Any person who followed the laws of the Jews as outline in the Torah and was circumcised (male only, of course) was considered a Jew. Anyone of a Jewish mother was considered a Jew. All of the Jewish religious variants spun off out of these basic requirements. Some sects believed in a heaven or hel...
by Sheshbazzar
Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

WHEN 'Iesus' christus' arrived there was one religion of the Jews, founded on practice of 'the Laws of Moses' The Torah, being practiced by all called 'The Nation of Israel'. No. There was not one religion. That is a misunderstanding of Judaism. Judaism was broken up into many versions before the o...
by Sheshbazzar
Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

You have chosen to ignore this information and explanation, Because it doesn't agree with YOUR favored hypothesis. Sheshbazzar Im not interested in bias or conspiracy theories. Except the perpetual promotion of your own blatant and myopic bias. What I present is a natural outcome of centuries of ph...
by Sheshbazzar
Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Every mythicist I know Every one I know has failed to provide an explanation for the text we are left with. Every mythicist I know of presents that the NT Gospel is composed of an imaginative compilation and application of older tales, texts, and religious tropes and traditions, much of which may (...
by Sheshbazzar
Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Got to give them credit, as that is the what the texts they employ actually present. Whereas 'Jesus "historicist's" would much rather reject 90% of the texts content, to present us with a fabricated "historical" 'Jesus' that is conformed to their own imaginations, one that did li...
by Sheshbazzar
Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

We sometimes forget just how rare it is within the annuls of human history, to enjoy freedom to openly question or reject the majority religion of ones society, without penalty. This freedom of thought and expression has not yet spread to many parts of the world. Even today there are still religious...
by Sheshbazzar
Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 203025

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Using the NT is not circular in any way when used properly. It did not come out of a vacuum. "When used properly"...and who gets to determine what constitutes this 'used "properly"? Is that shorthand for only those whose opinions coincide with yours, are using the texts "pr...
by Sheshbazzar
Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Discrediting Your Source. GJohn as Denial of GMark
Replies: 50
Views: 73687

Re: Discrediting Your Source. GJohn as Denial of GMark

But no one was "against" the original Torah from heaven Except that pesky part of the First Commandment; אנכי יהוה אלהיך and the restriction of; ויום השביעי שבת ליהוה אלהיך לא־תעשה כל־מלאכה אתה ובנך־ובתך עבדך ואמתך ובהמתך וגרך אשר בשעריך כי מי־אל מבלעדי יהוה בדד 'Jesus' ? :roll: