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- Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Salm on Klinghardt
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4702
Re: Salm on Klinghardt
I read Klinghardt and was very skeptical, but Now we see that he he sees at most that Marcion's text was parallel to GLuke, not its predecessor. There was a proto-gospel of some sort underlying both, but we should not follow Stephan Huller in calling it a Diatessaron.
- Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:24 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Do we have free will? Researchers test mechanisms...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 21006
Re: Do we have free will? Researchers test mechanisms...
I'm quite willing to believe we humans do not have free will.
As long as I can still believe that I do.
Realize that to stand against what is fore-ordained assures failure.
As long as I can still believe that I do.
Realize that to stand against what is fore-ordained assures failure.
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Source materials for the Christian gospels.
- Replies: 57
- Views: 27746
Re: Source materials for the Christian gospels.
to Ben, Christian gospel writings (Q, Signs Source, Passion Narrative). Signs Source, Passion Narrative: hypothetical documents unproven to have existed, but loved by some Christian apologists. There are a lot more evidence for the existence of Q: http://historical-jesus.info/q.html & http://ww...
- Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Source materials for the Christian gospels.
- Replies: 57
- Views: 27746
Re: Source materials for the Christian gospels.
The Passion Narrative seems agreed upon by critical scholars as a source underlying all four gospels. (Already listed by Ben in OP along with Q and Signs Source.)
- Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
- Replies: 121
- Views: 72314
Re: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
Good points, Don. As I went to track down your quotes from Did Jesus Exist? about Wells and Price, I stumbled across this argument from Ehrman (underlining and boldfacing mine):.... But this reasoning seems to fly in the face of the argument that Ehrman makes in Forged concerning the "we"...
- Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
- Replies: 121
- Views: 72314
Re: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
Are you serious? OK, I over-reacted. "L" would reasonably be thought to stand for Luke as a whole, but convention since B. H. Streeter in 1924 calls the material unique to the Gospel of Luke (and further limited to chapters 3 to 24) as "L", or as James R. Edwards prefers, "S...
- Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
- Replies: 121
- Views: 72314
Re: Bart Ehrman's new book: Jesus Before the Gospels
All based on "everyone's" assumptions about everyone's assumptions. The last scholarly work "establishing" that there were no eyewitness writings came from Canon Dennis Nineham in 1956 and 1959. Yet even he posited no particular strength to his case. So I repeat again, as no one ...
- Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:59 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul --- the First Christian
- Replies: 40
- Views: 15042
Re: Paul --- the First Christian
The argument here against early dating presupposes that predictions (or at least reasonably accurate predictions) are never made.
- Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Paul --- the First Christian
- Replies: 40
- Views: 15042
Re: Paul --- the First Christian
What evidence? (I contend that biblical "scholars" have settled on the terminus post quem ) Well, no. Bishop John A. T. Robinson was a notable Liberal ("Honest to God") who demonstrated that there is no proof that any of the NT was written after 70 A. D. Top University of Sheffi...
- Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John 18: 19 - 23
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6172
Re: John 18: 19 - 23
As you recognized, Charles, John 19:20 does not fit where it is placed. Even Teeple's fine-tuning did not separate out this verse as from "G". I had not myself extracted it from "E" to "G" until you pointed this out. John 19:20 was drawn from the voluminous Discourse ma...