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by outhouse
Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

By the way, you claimed "manuscripts" not fragments.

Honesty is required here.
by outhouse
Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

Mark is the earliest gospel and does not contain that mythology. Paul is earlier and also makes no mention of such. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_papyri Papyri 46 and 75 [c150-225] are the earliest dated manuscripts with stories of Jesus. In Papyri 75 Jesus was the Logos--the ...
by outhouse
Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

hakeem wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:04 amThe evidence support the argument that Jesus was always a figure of belief
Unsupported rhetoric

Not long after his crucifixion many different communities debated his nature and divinity and theology ABOUT a man who was crucified by Romans
by outhouse
Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

hakeem wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:04 amThe earliest dated manuscripts with stories of Jesus do state that he was born of a virgin
That is dishonest and wrong

Mark is the earliest gospel and does not contain that mythology.

Paul is earlier and also makes no mention of such.


What about the fact the koran copied biblical myth?
by outhouse
Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

Historians form hypotheses that are subject to falsification by the specific evidence they are actually working with. True But your missing the fact no historian or scholar has ever been able to refute the current standing hypothesis that holds complete historicity for Jesus. Every hypothesis ever ...
by outhouse
Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

Historians form hypotheses that are subject to falsification by the specific evidence they are actually working with. True But your missing the fact no historian or scholar has ever been able to refute the current standing hypothesis that holds complete historicity for Jesus. Every hypothesis ever ...
by outhouse
Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:15 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: sentenced to death for atheism’
Replies: 137
Views: 547189

Re: sentenced to death for atheism’

Primitive animals

Saudi police have arrested a 14-year-old boy after he danced the Macarena
by outhouse
Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People
Replies: 65
Views: 35359

Re: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People

. Christianity isn't really about the Jesus story. If it was just 'history' it wouldn't have caught on, it wouldn't have become a movement. I believe Christianity is about the Hellenistic divorce of the religious practices of Judaism, from the rebellious people of Israel. Basically Herods temple pr...
by outhouse
Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 258016

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

WRONG Cordially, Bernard Agreed. He will never be able to explain the current evidence we have for the factual origins of Christianity. No one has been able to explain anything that even comes close to a mythical origin or a center of origin. Without a center of origin, they all fail, and no mythic...
by outhouse
Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People
Replies: 65
Views: 35359

Re: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People

My point is simply that Mark's gospel is too sophisticated to have been written for oral reading alone. Deeper meaning for those educated in the know? For me much of the mystery was their best attempt to combat different Christology without pinning it down knowing this was rapidly changing. It also...