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- Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:01 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People
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Re: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People
. The trick was how to create a text that reads as if it were as ancient and authoritative as the Septuagint, but was actually written last week? Its almost non sequitur bud Daniel is some very important text for the origins of Christianity bringing in new Jewish practices, and that book did not ha...
- Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People
- Replies: 65
- Views: 35359
Re: Mark Wrote for Highly Educated People
. The trick was how to create a text that reads as if it were as ancient and authoritative as the Septuagint, but was actually written last week? Its almost non sequitur bud Daniel is some very important text for the origins of Christianity bringing in new Jewish practices, and that book did not ha...
- Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
I would quibble with the statement that the "authors [of the canonical Gospels] were Roman citizens." It was not until around the 3rd century that every free person was granted universal Roman citizenship. Some town and city based Christians might have had city or colony citizenship if th...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
The belief that John the Baptist existed is of no use to determine whether or not there was an actual person called Jesus of Nazareth. In addition, Christian writings declare Jesus of Nazareth was the resurrected son of God. People in the time of Pilate [even today] believed that mythological figur...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
It ain't Peter. It ain't this guy either. There may have been someone who lived in Galilee and the rest of the Story fits 100% as you say. It just wasn't anyone that we are looking at today. CW I believe John the Baptist was historical. I believe his murder was political to some extent, even if jus...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
It is Political and Historical. 100% agreed. The whole political landscape changed, these were not the oppressed Galilean Aramaic jews that started trouble in the temple, that factually ended up causing the destruction often eluded to. The authors were Koine speaking Roman citizens who did not want...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
My whole point. If a Galilean was crucified at Passover and people martyred his perceived sacrifice and made him a god, as Hellenist divorced cultural Judaism, what religious evidence would they leave? Exactly what we possess is the exact progression we see it in. 100% exact fit like a glove. Ever m...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
The rules for the verification of Jesus' historicity are the exception to how historians verify historical persons and events. False. The methods used applies to almost all history from this time period where there is less textual evidence. Your statement is false. Can you support it with evidence ...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Funny we do not know if Apollonius of Tyana influenced legends of jesus or the other way around.
Either way does anyone claim he is fictitious?
Either way does anyone claim he is fictitious?
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
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Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
It's basically a mirror image of the claim that mythicists are demanding more justification than usually is used for "comparable history." What are some "comparable histories"? Apollonius of Tyana, Apsethus the Libyan, Hillel the Elder. Honi the Circle-Drawer as well