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- Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The quest for the historical Christian communities
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16464
Re: The quest for the historical Christian communities
As you probably know Richard Bauckham argues that the evidence is against the assumption of such distinctly sealed communities. I would doubt they were sealed as well. I found the article poorly written. Why do people still use the word church when these were houses, Pater Familias. Your not going ...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The quest for the historical Christian communities
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16464
Re: The quest for the historical Christian communities
What do we know about the Christian communities? Because much of the text are compilations. Had they not been communities collecting pieces, you might see more text similar to the attributed epistles that were not compilations. "for the most part". Do you have a reason to distrust the hea...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
- Replies: 108
- Views: 123441
Re: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
I'd be willing to put $100 on Luke using Jospehus. I'd take that bet LOL. As to where I would posit a common source for both circulating in the Diaspora at about the same time. Luke is a compilation that plagiarizes GMark, so that community was throwing together their own little version of what was...
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:43 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
- Replies: 108
- Views: 123441
Re: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
Agreedtoejam wrote:The TF is a coin toss.
I have no real argument. Never relied on it either though.
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
- Replies: 108
- Views: 123441
Re: Two New Articles on Testimonium Flavianum
Peter Kirby wrote:
I for one am not sure whether Jesus lived, anyway. I don't think of myself as a "mythicist."
Dirty agnosticist
- Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Brodie vs Carrier on historicity of NT Paul
- Replies: 102
- Views: 60513
Re: Brodie vs Carrier on historicity of NT Paul
If one is searching for early christian origins, then it matters whether the Pauline epistles are 'historicized fiction' or history. True very valuable, in both states. We have historicized fiction, and history. Pauls rhetorical prose get ignored all of a sudden? If the epistles are history then th...
- Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Paul Josephus?
- Replies: 127
- Views: 84036
Re: Was Paul Josephus?
Argument from ignorance Argumentum ad ignorantiam There are lots of stories of shipwrecks in ancient literature. It would be almost impossible for any literate person not to have some knowledge of the common formula they use. Agreed. Add the rhetorical prose they were al trained to wrote in, there ...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:12 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
- Replies: 139
- Views: 95860
Re: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
The idea that the Jews interpreted Paul's teaching as requiring faith in an executed criminal is gratuitous. If he was really thought to have taught that he'd hardly be whipped but ridiculed as an idiot. Punishment ignores that these laws were more traditions then actual laws themelves. They often ...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
- Replies: 139
- Views: 95860
Re: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
Agree. But from what I have been learning I am coming to see Judaism itself as an epitome of Hellenism (blend of Greek and Asiatic ideas/influences). Judaism was itself the creation of Hellenism. Not for all. Judaism is a hard thing to define in the first century. Multi cultural, and not everyone w...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:51 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Genesis 1 & 2
- Replies: 126
- Views: 140277
Re: Genesis 1 & 2
While very old work, it is still the foundation for many studies on the topic.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/log/log06.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/log/log06.htm