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- Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
- Replies: 58
- Views: 67074
Re: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
It is not history, and never was history. . Gmark was written as a sort of history that was intended to be history, just not in a style we associate as history. Heavy use of rhetoric, allegory and mythology. Political history is laughable, and I agree with you. The early movement was far removed fr...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
- Replies: 58
- Views: 67074
Re: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
Granted that 1st century (pre-gospel) Christianity involved a purely celestial Christ figure (as well-argued by Doherty, Carrier, et al)... ... It is Granted that a purely celestial jesus figure is laughable. It has been busted for over a hundred years, and the few people who are playing with this ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
- Replies: 139
- Views: 95860
Re: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
Exactly.spin wrote:You have no "scripture" from the Essenes. .John T wrote:I give it a high probability that when Paul claimed scripture had prophesied the resurrection of Christ that the scripture he was referring to was from the Essenes.
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:41 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Did Moses Exist? The Myth of the Israelite Lawgiver
- Replies: 50
- Views: 91488
Re: Did Moses Exist? The Myth of the Israelite Lawgiver
And many are claimed to be mythical in nature, and or literary creations after monotheistic redactions.Mental flatliner wrote:
In addition, there are too many events in the Old Testament that have been confirmed
It would be great if you came in here with something besides biblical ignorance to debate with.
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Did Moses Exist? The Myth of the Israelite Lawgiver
- Replies: 50
- Views: 91488
Re: Did Moses Exist? The Myth of the Israelite Lawgiver
You should have read the Old Testament (which was my source). The Old Testament is, in and of itself, a legitimate historical source, On what planet? :tombstone: Your view has been long dead. Moses has no historicity at all, that is a fact. It is also factual that Israelites formed from displaces C...
- Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:50 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Ancient texts and manuscripts
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6850
Re: Ancient texts and manuscripts
--- was there just one manuscript somewhere in a library? It would be based on a text by text basis after study. One? not likely. Popularity and importance, dictated how many were in circulation. There were very few well educated people compared to the masses, these educated people wanted to get th...
- Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:37 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Weakness of Carrier/Doherty Heavenly Sacrifice
- Replies: 25
- Views: 19109
Re: Weakness of Carrier/Doherty Heavenly Sacrifice
The characterization of the suffering, death, and resurrection of the Christ as a heavenly event --- as taking place in a cosmic, spiritual realm --- is, in my opinion, a significant weakness in the Carrier/Doherty school of Christ Myth thought. . Correct. Ity is not only weak, it has no real follo...
- Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
- Replies: 887
- Views: 659545
Re: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
Way to much word salad going on. Nothing explains this as simple as a man who was martyred after passover, and a culture who was never really on board with Judaism but wanted one god, found inportance in the mythgology that grew around the martyrdom. And THAT is exactly what we have and see. No use ...
- Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mislabelling in Historicist Versus Mythicist Debate
- Replies: 32
- Views: 22583
Re: Mislabelling in Historicist Versus Mythicist Debate
While the label "mythicist" has been in use to refer to Christ Myth exponents since the early twentieth century it, too, is somewhat misleading and has become a standard descriptor only in recent years. . Agreed. Allthough I do think anyone semi in the game understand clearly and in conte...
- Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mislabelling in Historicist Versus Mythicist Debate
- Replies: 32
- Views: 22583
Re: Mislabelling in Historicist Versus Mythicist Debate
For us, it is the so-called "Mythicists" who are doing pure history or trying to keep history pure from mythological inventions, I challenge that statement. More often then not, the so called "myhicist" christ myth hypothesis followers. Are the ones who have the least knoweldge ...