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by lsayre
Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Are there mythicist books going in print?
Replies: 18
Views: 2545

Re: Are there mythicist books going in print?

I haven't finished reading it yet but I think you are being unfair with this book. The author presents some very good things. The idea that the crucifixion is an innovation of Paul for example is very interesting. I think I'm even convinced but I need to think more about it. I don't share all the i...
by lsayre
Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Are there mythicist books going in print?
Replies: 18
Views: 2545

Re: Are there mythicist books going in print?

Paul the Uncertain wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:23 am The difficulty might be in selling them.
Spot on!
by lsayre
Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Are there mythicist books going in print?
Replies: 18
Views: 2545

Re: Are there mythicist books going in print?

As to new mythicism books going to print, I just finished reading one of such titled "The Bible Tells Me So", and it was the most lame and repetitive (and need I say, padded out) waste of my reading time ever. If this book is considered as highly representative of this genre then I would n...
by lsayre
Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On Papias Holding that "the birth of Christ is placed in A.D. 9 , His baptism in 46 , His death in 58"
Replies: 5
Views: 874

Re: On Papias Holding that "the birth of Christ is placed in A.D. 9 , His baptism in 46 , His death in 58"

Whomever has come down to us as 'Paul' may be much earlier, but I don't see him as ever conceiving of a Christ called Jesus. Thus the earliest Paul would be hopelessly lost and unrecognizable to or by us. He may even have envisioned himself as a Christ figure.
by lsayre
Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On Papias Holding that "the birth of Christ is placed in A.D. 9 , His baptism in 46 , His death in 58"
Replies: 5
Views: 874

Re: On Papias Holding that "the birth of Christ is placed in A.D. 9 , His baptism in 46 , His death in 58"

I find it plausible that a generally recognizable form of Christianity emerged soon after the Bar Kokhba revolt, but this would establish the terminus ad quem. I have no idea as to the terminus post quem, but I suspect the religion which evolved to become Christianity may have been radically differe...
by lsayre
Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Arguing Against the Church Fathers
Replies: 103
Views: 16975

Re: Arguing Against the Church Fathers

Scientific method demands that everything retain(s) the potential to be openly and validly falsified. If it is not falsifiable it lies within the realm of either force or faith, with the second of these options rather often being merely a somewhat longer term fear or ignorance driven Stockholm Syndr...
by lsayre
Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Possible the original Pauline letters never mentioned Jesus?
Replies: 84
Views: 13587

Re: Possible the original Pauline letters never mentioned Jesus?

So, realistically, if we take a passage like: 1 Cor: 1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes, 2 To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on...
by lsayre
Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: If No New Information, Data, Material Emerges About Christianity What's There to Write About?
Replies: 14
Views: 1493

Re: If No New Information, Data, Material Emerges About Christianity What's There to Write About?

When I look at professors (I can't call them 'colleagues' by any stretch of the imagination) on Facebook they have to act like their research is so interesting and ground-breaking. I guess I am a bad judge of what's relevant but it all seems so ... contrived. Like the atheist scholars think that by...
by lsayre
Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Arguing Against the Church Fathers
Replies: 103
Views: 16975

Re: Arguing Against the Church Fathers

After the first few Ecumenical Councils everything was settled and the truth was resolved, so there is no need to look beyond these plus the Canonical texts. Reading non-Canonical tests, and/or questioning the decisions of these councils will result in burning in hell. There can be no arguing agains...
by lsayre
Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Possible the original Pauline letters never mentioned Jesus?
Replies: 84
Views: 13587

Re: Possible the original Pauline letters never mentioned Jesus?

If the Shepherd of Hermas is the 'record' of the early church in Rome it appears to be... with late 1st century elements to PRIOR to the 'catholic' acceptance of Paul in what, the mid-late 2nd c (and Hermas is only vaguely Pauline) Then Paul could have wrote in the 50's/60's but was abandoned. take...