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by Ben C. Smith
Sat May 02, 2015 6:08 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ram
Replies: 76
Views: 76200

Re: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ra

Peter Kirby wrote:Thank you for these comments. I'm working on other things right now, but I do intend to come back to this.
No problem. No rush.

Ben.
by Ben C. Smith
Fri May 01, 2015 10:16 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus.
Replies: 397
Views: 266105

Re: Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus.

I keep trying to link the two sons of Simon to two names known from the Pauline and pseudo-Pauline epistles: Rufus, a select man in the Lord (Romans 16.13), and Alexander the coppersmith, who did Paul much harm (2 Timothy 4.14) and who may be the same Alexander whom Paul supposedly delivered over to...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri May 01, 2015 9:00 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ram
Replies: 76
Views: 76200

Re: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ra

Secret Alias wrote:Clearly Peter's argument here requires us to abandon any of the stupid 'white' suppositions about pagan myths and the like being at the heart of the gospel narrative (via allegory).
What is a white supposition?

Ben.
by Ben C. Smith
Fri May 01, 2015 6:08 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ram
Replies: 76
Views: 76200

Re: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ra

I am not committed to that order of steps; indeed, the order is pretty hard to get right. Rather, it is the number of steps that matters. I tried to write that without step #4, but I felt I could not take it out in good conscience. I think I may have found a way to eliminate one step from the silph...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri May 01, 2015 4:12 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ram
Replies: 76
Views: 76200

Re: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ra

Thank you for this, Ben. I would like to come back to this, but first may I ask, what did you think of the other half of the proposal in the OP regarding Mark 15:20b-22 [and Numbers 19:2b-3]? Does this elicit your "yes" or does it incline you towards "no"? I can see where this m...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:26 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ram
Replies: 76
Views: 76200

Re: A Plausible Reading of Mark, Well-Done with a Side of Ra

I appreciate any critical and productive comments based on a careful reading. Thank you. Hi, Peter. I hope I have been reasonably careful in my reading, but I trust you will point out where I have not been. :) When I first read Crossan describing various points of his prophecy historicized idea in ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The dominical logia (for Ulan).
Replies: 42
Views: 31777

Re: The dominical logia (for Ulan).

We're just making castles made of sand here. The study of early Christianity is principally a study of corrupt texts that aren't recognized as corrupt texts. There isn't just the potential for misrepresentation. The misrepresentation of what we are dealing with is baked into the end products of all...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:31 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus.
Replies: 397
Views: 266105

Re: Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus.

Personal incredulity is the conclusion, not the premise from which the argument arises. Thank you for explaining, Neil. Did not Ludemann seem to be using an argument from incrudulity when he asked rhetorically who would have had a correct recollection of that ? But I do not have the context, so may...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The dominical logia (for Ulan).
Replies: 42
Views: 31777

Re: The dominical logia (for Ulan).

Secret Alias wrote:But we have to be ready at any given moment to collapse our constructs because they might be completely wrong.
I am ready for that. Any time. I just do not think that the threat of our notions toppling equals our notions actually toppling.

Ben.
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The dominical logia (for Ulan).
Replies: 42
Views: 31777

Re: The dominical logia (for Ulan).

But this is another bullshit thing. There was no heretic named Cerinthus. My point does not depend on there being an actual Cerinthus. All that matters to my point is that Gaius rejected the fourth gospel, and the reasons he did so. That he attributed it to Cerinthus is just color, so far as my poi...