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Agreed.

The whole point of the work is to deny Jesus a god and was a fully human being. It's relentless. And the author was from outside the faith purporting to record "on the ground" conversations with Jesus and the first converts to Christianity. It proves that "mythicism" was a non-is...

2.69 Celsus and the unbelievers would have criticized what was written and would have accused it, even saying so in this way (ἐκάκιζεν ἂν τὸ γεγραμμένον ὁ Κέλσος καὶ οἱ ἄπιστοι, καὶ κατηγόρησαν ἂν καὶ οὕτω λέγοντες)

Samaritan? Dosithean? 2.79 This too was a mark of Celsus's ignorance, attributing to the Jewish persona a single prophet who had previously spoken about Christ. And since the Jew in Celsus’s account has been introduced as saying these things supposedly according to his own law, and since he has alre...

Really? "It was supposed, on the one hand by Celsus, that these things were done through sorcery, and on the other hand by the Jews of that time—though I do not know from where they learned about Beelzebul—that 'by Beelzebul, the ruler of the demons,' he casts out 'the demons.'" ὑπονοηθέντ...

It alleged to be written by someone living at the time of Jesus.

2.9 being suggested by Celsus to have occurred through sorcery, but by the Jews of that time.(ὑπονοηθέντων ὑπὸ μὲν Κέλσου γοητείᾳ γεγονέναι ὑπὸ δὲ τῶν τότε Ἰουδαίων)

Hmmm. Could be. Or could be the "circle of Celsus" he references throughout: 2.11 Or will those around Celsus speak of the things that reveal Judas was not entirely estranged and, even after the audacious acts against the teacher, fabricate stories? (Ἢ τὰ μὲν ἐμφαίνοντα τὸ μὴ πάντῃ ἀποστατ...

But how would he know that? What Egyptian source(s) would there be available to a non Alexandrian/Egyptian.

1.56 Celsus, the Jew in his work, and everyone else failed to notice, that the prophecies speak of two advents of Christ (Ἔλαθε δὲ τὸν Κέλσον καὶ τὸν παρ' αὐτῷ Ἰουδαῖον καὶ πάντας) Who is the "everyone else" Origen is referring to? Origen may have had access to a commentary or notes on Cel...

1.46 ἅτινα διαβάλλων Κέλσος φησὶν αὐτὸν παρ' Αἰγυπτίοις μεμαθηκότα πεποιηκέναι "Which things Celsus, slandering, says he learned among the Egyptians and did them."