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by Giuseppe
Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

(7) A second century invention of pre-70 setting (1 Cor 9:17) letters would not expect the end of the world so immediately in such a fictive setting (1 Thess 4:17), a point of view already contradicted by the time of the second century. Indeed this very contradiction is noted in later texts (John 2...
by Giuseppe
Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

the minimal definition is the following: the school of X exists if X is surrounded by co-workers and co-writers who engage whole books and that are in the presence of elaborate manuscripts. (1) multiple writers (2) access to sources Is this what you are calling a "school"? and a third req...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

More questions present themselves: (1) What is the minimum definition of a "school"? (2) What is the minimum required to consider a school "Pauline"? For example, if this "school" that was producing Pauline letters were neither Marcionite nor Valentinian but prior to b...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

JarekS wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:47 pm After 100 CE, a collection of letters appeared
do you mean "after 135" (if you agree with a post-Acts dating of the letters)?
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

(7) A second century invention of pre-70 setting (1 Cor 9:17) letters would not expect the end of the world so immediately in such a fictive setting (1 Thess 4:17), a point of view already contradicted by the time of the second century. Indeed this very contradiction is noted in later texts (John 2...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

Hi Giuseppe, I have some reservations about this theory and I am curious how you or Livesey would respond to them. It has been stated that the epistolary form of the Moral Epistles serves, at least in part, the pedagogical purpose of the work. I can totally see that and it reminds me of dialogues (...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications if (a great IF) the Testimonium Flavianum is genuine
Replies: 0
Views: 1988

Implications if (a great IF) the Testimonium Flavianum is genuine

Godfrey writes: (A passage found in a work by the Jewish historian Josephus, even if only partially authentic, can tell us nothing more than what was being said about Jesus some sixty years after he was supposed to have lived.) I understand that the quote has been taken from a post designed to &quo...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who uses Mark 13:7 to date Mark?
Replies: 0
Views: 1986

Who uses Mark 13:7 to date Mark?

13:7: When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. The best example of "rumor of wars" in my opinion is the hearsay about revolts in Cyrene. The requisite of remote distance is satisfied, just as the Messianic ambition ...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'
Replies: 202
Views: 21602

Re: 'The Letters of Paul in their Roman Literary Context: Reassessing Apostolic Authorship'

More questions present themselves: (1) What is the minimum definition of a "school"? (2) What is the minimum required to consider a school "Pauline"? For example, if this "school" that was producing Pauline letters were neither Marcionite nor Valentinian but prior to b...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Schmidt on the Testimonium Flavianum
Replies: 55
Views: 8987

Re: Schmidt on the Testimonium Flavianum

And by Tertullian against Marcion.