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by FransJVermeiren
Thu May 11, 2017 9:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Christian Forger and the Emmaus Narrative
Replies: 24
Views: 12354

Re: The Christian Forger and the Emmaus Narrative

At the end of the post above I mentioned the connection I suspect between the Emmaus narrative and John 21. Searching the internet I found the following: The appearance which occupies the whole of John 21, whatever its origin and status, has some resemblances with Luke’s Emmaus story, even though it...
by FransJVermeiren
Sun May 07, 2017 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case of L. G. Rylands against the historical Jesus
Replies: 4
Views: 2817

Re: The case of L. G. Rylands against the historical Jesus

In my opinion the whole answer is in the first chapter of the fourth gospel, if translated correctly. For the use of λογος in John 1 see the first paragraph of the Wikipedia-entry ‘Pre-existence of Christ’. The Dutch scholar Pierre Krijbolder has made a brilliant translation of John 1, presenting a ...
by FransJVermeiren
Sun May 07, 2017 6:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Christian Forger and the Emmaus Narrative
Replies: 24
Views: 12354

Re: The Christian Forger and the Emmaus Narrative

The Emmaus narrative: Jesus’ first meeting with acquaintances on arriving home After my short contribution above, below I will try to give a more in-depth elaboration of the Emmaus narrative in the light of my chronological theory. The Emmaus story is a famous but also bizarre New Testament passage...
by FransJVermeiren
Tue May 02, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Christian Forger and the Emmaus Narrative
Replies: 24
Views: 12354

Re: The Christian Forger and the Emmaus Narrative

According to Nestle-Aland, Luke 24:12 is an interpolation. Below I will discuss verse 13, but I will start with verses 14-19a, which in my opinion is the original layer of this narrative together with verse 28-31a. 14 … and talking with each other about all these things that had happened. 15 While t...
by FransJVermeiren
Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius Corrupted the Writings of Clement
Replies: 25
Views: 10711

Re: Eusebius Corrupted the Writings of Clement

Thank you SA for this very instructive thread. Why was Eusebius so focused on chronology, not only concerning the antiquity of the Jews, but also concerning Jesus and his time? Maybe he has lifted a tip of the veil himself in PE XI: For with those authors whose record of times is inconsistent, the h...
by FransJVermeiren
Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- The Wrath to Come
Replies: 25
Views: 18393

Re: Paul --- The Wrath to Come

So you're argument for "interpolation" is that 1 The 2:16 is in the present tense, while all other references to the "wrath" are in future tense? There is not only the present perfect tense of the last sentence. The εἰς τἐλος at the end of the paragraph can as well be translated...
by FransJVermeiren
Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Θανατος = pestilence = Titus
Replies: 1
Views: 1451

Θανατος = pestilence = Titus

In an earlier thread I identified the riders of the four horses of Revelation 6 as the two Roman protagonists of the story. They are Roman equites, Vespasian (white + red horseman) and Titus (black + greenish horseman). There is an interesting side effect of that interpretation that I did not discus...
by FransJVermeiren
Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- The Wrath to Come
Replies: 25
Views: 18393

Re: Paul --- The Wrath to Come

Giuseppe wrote: If I remember well, a Dutch Radical , Gustav Adolf van den Bergh van Eysinga, claimed that the case for the non-historicity of Jesus becomes more strong with the original pauline epistles, and not the contrary. The original stratum of the Pauline letters contradicts a Jesus 'under P...
by FransJVermeiren
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul --- The Wrath to Come
Replies: 25
Views: 18393

Re: Paul --- The Wrath to Come

The simplest explanation is that the letters were written after AD 70 and the "wrath" Paul was supposedly predicting in these (fake) letters was coming against "the Jews" (1 Thess 2:16) I don't believe things are as simple as that. 1 Thess 2:16 does not speak of the wrath to com...
by FransJVermeiren
Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What are the important textual battlegrounds for HJ debate?
Replies: 29
Views: 13082

Re: What are the important textual battlegrounds for HJ deba

Looking at the responses, we appear to have some kind of bias or preference in favor of the canonical texts (the NT) at work. In our search for the origins of Christianity, I suggest we should give preference to the difficult work, inside or outside the NT. The easy work - to reinterpret the NT tex...