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Frans wrote: "Let’s assume that the distance by road from the nearest shore of the Sea of Galilee to Gadara is 12 or 13 km. A trip to Gadara could then go as follows: • Get up at 7 • Take along a piece of bread and cheese for breakfast • Take the boat at 7.30 • Breakfast on the boat – arrival a...

Michael BG wrote: I thought you engaged in debate with others on your theories. I thought you have presented papers for others to discuss and criticise, so your theories can be tested. It seems that you do not have answers to the idea that all the non-biblical stories of Jesus’ sojourn in Egypt are ...

MrMacSon wrote: I meant the total number of people in the writings of Josephus that are named Jesus. Not all are messiah-claimants, and it would seem that some who don't seem to be messiah claimants have, in recent times, been conflated with the NT-Jesus (eg. Jesus ben Ananias) Well, can we add some...

To MrMacSon: There are a number of messianic leaders named by Josephus, is that what you mean? But not all of them are NT-Jesus, unless Jesus is REALLY a composite character. I think we may have a hard time finding a term for the non-biblical character that we can all agree on. After all, some of us...

MrMacSon wrote: Perhaps those of us in this forum, at least, could consider a change in terminology and a change in emphasis. eg. stop using the term historical Jesus, and consider using the term NT-Jesus for the biblical Jesus, and consider concepts such as the primary figure or perhaps 'foundation...

FransJVermeiren wrote: I think Simon bar Giora is present elsewhere in the NT, in the Gospel of Luke in particular. I hope to discuss that story soon (in a new topic). Really curious to hear about that! I see him in the raising of the widow's son from Nain (the only place Nain is mentioned by Joseph...

Ben C. Smith wrote: Lena Einhorn wrote: The reason d) (the answer to "why the time shift?"): If Jesus, in reality, was not exactly the kind of person that the Gospels portray -- if, for instance, he was a rebel leader, actively partaking in, and inspiring, the violent upheaval of the times...

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Are you listing candidates for the historical Jesus that various people have suggested? Or are you asking my opinion?

To MrMacSon and Michael BG: I have said this a few times in this thread, but I'll say it again: when alternative explanations are suggested for each separate element in a multi-component parallel between the NT and other sources (mine or anybody elses) this is of course perfectly all right. But ther...