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- Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:02 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
MrMacSon wrote: Was Origen fully a 'Christian Church Father'? Why did he revise the Septuagint (over 28 years) and undertake the "Hexapla"? He arranged his texts in six columns: Hebrew in Hebrew characters; Hebrew in Greek characters; Aquila; Symmachus; Septuagint; and Theodotion. There's...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
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MrMacSon wrote: Lena Einhorn wrote: And then we have Celsus ... Origen's sock-puppet? Really? Why do you say that? Why would a Christian Church Father of his own accord want to make known the idea that "“when she [Mary] was pregnant she was turned out of doors by the carpenter to whom she had ...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
To Frans and MrMacSon (concerning witnesses):
And then we have Celsus ...
And then we have Celsus ...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:02 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
- Replies: 410
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
maryhelena wrote: "Whether Josephus was in 'cahoots' with the gospel writers - or simply knows the Jesus story and for whatever reason chooses to support that story in his writing - the connection between the writing of Josephus and the NT story is evident. What one makes of that connection de...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:54 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
MrMacSon wrote: "if the authors of the Gospels read and used Josephus, they would have had to do so after 94 AD/CE (to have used Antiquities)." Sure, there may be ignorance, or forgetfulness, involved. But they are obviously not using Josephus as their only source. They have their own age...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
maryhelena wrote: Dubious history? Indeed lots of it in Josephus. That's why his stories have to be verified if one wants to use them for a historical inquiry. Stories are great, in and of themselves. However, since we are in the serious business of searching for early christian origins, stories ca...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
- Replies: 410
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
And here comes a figure demonstrating my proposed chronology:
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
- Replies: 410
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And here comes another figure, demonstrating the absence of robber-activity during the times when the Gospels say Jesus was active:
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
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Since MrMacSon told me how to attach files
, here comes a figure illustrating the proposed time shift from the 40s and 50s (in Josephus) to the 20s and 30s (in the NT):
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
- Replies: 410
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Re: Time Shift scenarios and the New Testament texts
MrMacSon wrote: Lena Einhorn wrote: Could you elaborate a bit on why you (and Jay Raskin) thought Pilate should be Festus, and Tiberius should be Nero in the original text? Jay aligns Festus with that Antiquities 20.8.10 passage -viz. - 10. Upon Festus’s coming into Judea, it happened that Judea wa...