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- Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mummy Mask Manuscript Might Mean More Metaphorical Mark?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 31627
Re: Mummy Mask Manuscript Might Mean More Metaphorical Mark?
My take no matter how poor or credible, stands. The Pauline authors went out of their way to "over sell" the theology and Pauline authority, but they did not "over sell" a celestial only Jesus. They factually sold a Jesus that died, and now is in Heaven. And nothing exist that s...
- Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Two Powers in Heaven
- Replies: 120
- Views: 49986
Re: Two Powers in Heaven
And then there is the age old question of whether Adversus Marcionem 3 is based on an original Greek text closer to Adversus Iudaeos: I saw an absract last week somewhere online for a thesis going the other way around, that Adversus Iudaeos is a compilation from Adversus Marcionem and other works o...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mummy Mask Manuscript Might Mean More Metaphorical Mark?
- Replies: 46
- Views: 31627
Re: Mummy Mask Manuscript Might Mean More Metaphorical Mark?
Its taking since 2012 to transcribe some one verse scrap? Lol. And I don't see what it could possibly have to do with mythicism. Nobody is going to trust dating to the first century but fundies. Already some fundies say things like that the KJV is based on 1st century mss and the NIV on 3rd. Only pe...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Paul exist during the War?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6485
Re: Did Paul exist during the War?
Even after the Jerusalem temple is destroyed teachers could refer to the temple and its service as standing...i.e. the one in Egypt the church and scholarship doesn't want us to know existed.
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 44459
Re: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
That is exactly the sort of exegesis that can get one anywhere one wishes to go, the sort that relies upon sleight of hand and "switcheroos", as you charmingly call them. I asked this question of Giuseppe once long ago: if Jesus' second cup in Mark is the eucharistic cup, what is Jesus' s...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 44459
Re: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
I want to add here that in early Christianity there is literally no greater honor to pay to someone than that they died a martyr's death. Look at how the martyrs are treated in the apocalypse of John. Look at how Paul extols obedience to the point of death in Philippians and in other contexts. Look...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Is the Gospel So Bad at Proving Jesus is Son of God?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 33257
Re: Why Is the Gospel So Bad at Proving Jesus is Son of God?
I also can't help but mention that, although Celsus thought the idea of Jesus claiming to be the Son of God was a ploy on the ignorant masses, Celsus did not deny the historical existence of Jesus. Considering that Celsus himself may not be historical that doesn't mean much. He only exists in Orige...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 44459
Re: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
I want to add here that in early Christianity there is literally no greater honor to pay to someone than that they died a martyr's death. Look at how the martyrs are treated in the apocalypse of John. Look at how Paul extols obedience to the point of death in Philippians and in other contexts. Look...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
- Replies: 66
- Views: 44459
Re: The restoration of the disciples in Mark.
Giuseppe, you just convinced me of historicity. Unless James and John were really martyred, what point would there be in devaluing their martyrdom with the two thieves stealing (pun intended) their glory? In fact the two thieves aren't just stealing their glory, but...dun dun dun...stealing their th...
- Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Paul exist during the War?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6485
Re: Did Paul exist during the War?
Probably as simple and naive as the destruction of the temple not being mentioned as accomplished in the existing/surviving epistles.Giuseppe wrote:
Can someone say why we put the death of Paul strictly before the 70 ?