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Actually, I don't see the writings of Ante-Nicene Fathers a mess. Cyprian wrote that the early Christian faith was a fairly simple one. Well Cyprian was right; the early Christian faith was a fairly simple one: two gods, one buys those who will believe in him from the other with a ransom payment (a...

Way too much to read and such a complicated theory by Secret Alias. It is hard for me to follow his complex line of thinking. Perhaps someone else can verify if I understand the Secret Alias theory correctly. Although Irenaeus, a contemporary of Marcion goes on and on (yada, yada, yada) about the f...

Is Psalm 22.18 (LXX 21.19) an obvious reference to the gospel accounts of the crucifixion, then? Granting that there is a lot of metaphor in the Odes, how do you know that the metaphor must postdate the gospel records and allude to them? How do you know that the gospel record (the crucifixion, the ...

I only see 8 explicit references to the Messiah in the odes, and only one is even interesting, in Ode 24, about a dove flying on the Messiah's head. Which means either the odes are written after the synoptics The Davies's answer: As for the dove, we hear in Ode 24:1-2 (Lattke): ''The dove flew onto...

Bolding in the quotes is mine. So Davies: As discussed above, there is no mention of Jesus in the Odes anywhere , no mention of the crucifixion anywhere, not one saying of Jesus or miracle story about him found in any gospel is referenced in any of the Odes. Ode 24, dove on his head. From the baptis...

But Paul corrected that false view: Paul confirmed that he is sent not by men but by Joshua Christ, therefore implying that Joshua Christ is not a man. It seems more likely he means he's no longer a man. Highly exalted, henceforth know we no longer him after the flesh, etc. It would be impossible t...

Are the Odes ever quoted in the New Testament? Because if not, the theory seems completely impossible.

Secret Alias wrote:That's why I wouldn't be surprised to discover that Irenaeus wasn't even a Christian at all. He is so outside any of the normal 'traditions' within Christianity up to hat point - picking and choosing often self-contradictory positions

The ancient version of you, then.

Some of GOT reminds me too much of bad Zen koans:

7. Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human.

Huh?

It seems that GOT has played no role in the development of Christianity. Why should any Christian bother to read it? To see how Buddhism tried to appropriate Jesus with a fake gospel. LOL Why should a Christian bother with Buddhism? Because at one point in Buddhist doctrine only monks could get to ...