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- Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
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Re: How late might the gospels be?
Two points: 1. Hakeem seems to rule out the possibility of the miraculous. That is not scientifically tenable. We cannot say that we know all the "laws of nature." How can one possibly know that the miraculous or extraordinary cannot occur? Life out of dead matter is a miracle; consciousn...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140942
Re: How late might the gospels be?
hakeem -- With all due respect to you, I believe you are making major Category Errors in your analysis. Your statement concerning "...stories of Jesus ..." is false on the face of it to many believers . This implies that, in order to find Truth Value in what you state, a "deeper"...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140942
Re: How late might the gospels be?
But 'Some of you will see it happening before you die' is a testable forecast. And some Thessalonians appeared to expect it, which is difficult, imo, to set aside, even if here we are not doing the epistles of Paul. Please name a Thessalonian who expected to "see it happening before death"...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140942
Re: How late might the gospels be?
Nobody is setting that aside. You and I agree about the literalness of Paul's audiences' expectations. The current issue, however, is whether the composition date of an apparently later work than Paul's letters "must have" come within a certain time frame...... First of all the so-called ...
- Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
- Replies: 95
- Views: 80204
Re: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
... the Jesus story was derived directly by manipulating the Septuagint and the writings of Josephus. The Semitisms in the Christian Bible is a direct result of copying Jewish Scripture and other Jewish writings already written in Greek. It's possible Jewish scripture not readily available in Greek...
- Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
- Replies: 95
- Views: 80204
Re: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
There are sayings which make no sense in Greek but which make perfect sense in Hebrew or Aramaic: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3718 , implying that they hail from a Semitic environment. There are Semitisms in the gospels which, while they are not enough to prove that the t...
- Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:14 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
- Replies: 95
- Views: 80204
Re: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
There are sayings which make no sense in Greek but which make perfect sense in Hebrew or Aramaic: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3718 , implying that they hail from a Semitic environment. There are Semitisms in the gospels which, while they are not enough to prove that the t...
- Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the silence of 2century apologists
- Replies: 71
- Views: 45723
Re: On the silence of 2century apologists
For the ones interested, I described here in details http://historical-jesus.info/hjes3x.html how a strictly Jewish messianic sect provided the start to an evolution which led to a Gentile Christianity incompatible with Judaism. Cordially, Bernard Your arguments are all baseless. The Christian Bibl...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
- Replies: 247
- Views: 146009
Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
I know it clearly states that the Jews killed him. But mainstream critical scholarship also demonstrates that that passage has a questionable authenticity. There are no authentic letters of Paul. The existing manuscripts with so-called Pauline letters were composed sometime c 2nd-3rd century by mul...
- Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
- Replies: 247
- Views: 146009
Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
A quibble. I deplore Carrier's use of "outer space" in this context. It is a grossly misleading anachronism. A more accurate term is "sub lunar realm" since that term is one to which the ancients themselves could relate. Outer space suggests the open expanse above the earth's at...