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- Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:13 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Three Crosses as Sampi
- Replies: 8
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Re: The Three Crosses as Sampi
You're forgetting that this is an allegorical narrative written over a historical event. I would even venture to say the crucifixion is itself more allegorical than historical. (Justin certainly seems to think so.) But identifying Lukuas with Simon of Jerusalem does lend credibility to a historical ...
- Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Three Crosses as Sampi
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4914
Re: The Three Crosses as Sampi
I don't know much about the letter symbolism, though considering Marcosians and Carpocratians employed it, there could be something to it. So far, to me, the triple crucifixion scene reiterates the idea of duplication present in the Gospels, just as how Jesus is crucified, and Judas is hung on a tre...
- Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Belly up to the Bar Kochba Rebellion
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7568
Re: Belly up to the Bar Kochba Rebellion
I have a problem. No, not THAT problem (or those...). After about a decade and a half, I've developed a NT System, hopefully self-consistent. It is one that does not include Bar Kochba. There's a problem there. I believe that Zakkai plays a role in the NT. If not Zakkai then perhaps Wietzman's Scri...
- Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:30 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Dating the books of the New Testament belief not evidence
- Replies: 37
- Views: 37132
Re: most excellent Theophilus
Most definitely. Considering the magnitude of what had occurred, that would definitely be the case. So you argue that such a momentous event was ignored or overlooked by reputable historians and writers extent at the time, only to be written about by essentially nobodies? The standard chronology is...
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Luke's date for the crucifixion
- Replies: 40
- Views: 40778
Re: Luke's date for the crucifixion
And I agree that there was a mixed ECW history, and I pointed out that nobody that I know has put together a good summary, and that of Burgon should only be used as a starting point. The manuscripts, however, in Greek, Latin, Syriac and virtually every versional language support the non-eclipse vie...
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:11 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Luke's date for the crucifixion
- Replies: 40
- Views: 40778
Re: Luke's date for the crucifixion
Phlegon reportedly did compared the darkness to an eclipse, so there is attestation in the ancient witnesses for such an idea. Καὶ ἦν ἤδη ὡσεὶ ὥρα ἕκτη καὶ σκότος ἐγένετο ἐφ’ ὅλην τὴν γῆν ἕως ὥρας ἐνάτης τοῦ ἡλίου ἐκλιπόντος , ἐσχίσθη δὲ τὸ καταπέτασμα τοῦ ναοῦ μέσον. Luke was a super-accurate histo...
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Dating the books of the New Testament belief not evidence
- Replies: 37
- Views: 37132
Re: most excellent Theophilus
There was supposedly a Theophilus of Caesarea (†195), a bishop, and allegedly a teacher of Clement of Alexandria. That is also possible, however I consider Luke , chapter one, verses one to four, to be original of a Diatessaronic text, whose purpose was to bridge relations with the western church o...
- Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Dating the books of the New Testament belief not evidence
- Replies: 37
- Views: 37132
Re: most excellent Theophilus
The strongest evidence is right in the first verses of Luke. Theophilus was the "most excellent" high priest in 40-41 AD. Giving us a rather precise dating. Steven Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who...
- Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Dating the books of the New Testament belief not evidence
- Replies: 37
- Views: 37132
Re: Dating the books of the New Testament belief not evidence
If I may add my own speculative dates: Neo-Targum, 80-100 ad Ur-Evangelium, 120-130 ad Ur-John, 125-140 ad Ur-Paul, 125-140 ad Gospel of James, 125-135 Gospel of the Hebrews, 130-140 ad Secret Mark, 130-145 ad These, and a few more text, make up the bulk of "stage one" of the textual devel...
- Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Luke's date for the crucifixion
- Replies: 40
- Views: 40778
Re: Luke's date for the crucifixion
The theme of he text is that of revelation. That it is set during a Passover goes along with that allegory. It is not historical in that it is describing an actual crucifixion of a Galilean charlatan.