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Giuseppe, you have got to be the biggest dupe I've ever encountered, and I have dealings with a crazy Calvanist, a conspiracy theorist by the name of KeithTruth, and the legend himself J. P. Holding. You take the cake for sure for the biggest moron on the planet, surpassing even Steven Avery, becaus...

Judean [doesn't equal] Jew What does it mean? Does "Greek" mean Greek ? Does "Roman" mean Roman ? They showed Jesus a gold coin and said to him, "The Roman emperor's people demand taxes from us." Rather, you have become like the Judeans, for they love the tree but hate...

Justin was the first to hate Marcion for his anti-YHWH gospel. Markus Vinzent docet . "Anti-YHWH" is too vague a term. What Marcion did--what Justin said--is that he lowered YHWH's status, possibly to that of a demiurge, but Justin isn't clear on that either. Is that "anti-YHWH"...

There's nothing balanced when dealing with you. "Don't be dispersive in the arguments"? Or what? What are you going to do about it? Origen wasn't even a Catholic. His works were condemned as heresy and he was denied sainthood by the Catholic church. Justin didn't say Marcion was "anti...

Your only response is that Origen was just being an apologist, which is not a meaningful rebuttal. Double standard, here, eh? When Origen cries: blame Marcion, not me, because Marcion is talking that bullshit!!! , you reject him willingly. While when it is Celsus who talks about rival Gods, you app...

Your case is entirely based on the denial of Celsus's independence . What is that even supposed to mean? Marcionites, Carpocratians, Simonians, Jews, Ebionites, Catholics, Valentinians, etc, were not all concentrated in a single place for Celsus to observe and investigate. He would almost certainly...

He next pours down upon us a heap of names, saying that he knows of the existence of certain Simonians who worship Helene, or Helenus, as their teacher, and are called Helenians. But it has escaped the notice of Celsus that the Simonians do not at all acknowledge Jesus to be the Son of God, but ter...

He is able to see that there are Christians who hate the creator.

Absolutely nowhere does he say this. This is your abortive interpretation, and your abortive interpretation only.

Robert Hoffmann, I choose you!

Learn to fucking read you mook. He next proceeds to jest, and, as his custom is, to pour ridicule upon the subject, introducing two sons of God, one the son of the Creator, and the other the son of Marcion's God; and he portrays their single combats, saying that the Theomachies of the Fathers are li...