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the content is the same of the other passage, where he mentions " the Son of Marcion's God ". No it isn't and Origen makes it clear that Celsus is mocking both Jews and the Marcionites. "He next proceeds to jest, and, as his custom is, to pour ridicule upon the subject." Celsus ...

Let no one suppose that I am ignorant that some of them will concede that their God is the same as that of the Jews, while others will maintain that he is a different one, to whom the latter is in opposition, and that it was from the former that the Son came. I'm not impressed. It's about s meaning...

On the present occasion, however, it is not our object to enter into an explanation of the subject of intelligent and sensible beings, nor of the manner in which the different kinds of days were allotted to both sorts, nor to investigate the details which belong to the subject, for we should need w...

It's been months since I engaged with a lunatic but that's not true. The only time 'Marcionites' or 'Marcion' come up in Against Celsus Origen does the reference. It is not a direct citation from Celsus only Origen telling us whom Celsus mentions. The Church Fathers are notably sloppy in that respe...

Gnosticism does not imply that these sects are homogeneous and they are not treated as such. Gnosticism is a general umbrella term for Christian sects that have overtly mystical or "high Christological" beliefs, or extremely complicated formulas and philosophies. Calling all of these sects...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Jeu The Books of Jeu are two Gnostic texts . Though independent works, both the First Book of Jeu and the Second Book of Jeu appear, in Coptic, in the Bruce Codex. https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Books_of_Jeu_and_the_Untitled_Text_i/arY3AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&...

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Neoplatonism_and_Gnosticism/WSbrLPup7wYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Neoplatonism+and+Gnosticism&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.com/books/edition/Studia_Patristica_Historica_Theologica_G/DxzFzzGZWbIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Homer+and+gnosticism&pg=PA3...

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6723-gnosticism An esoteric system of theology and philosophy. It presents one of the most obscure and complicated problems in the general history of religion. It forced itself into prominence in the first centuries of the common era, and the Church Fathers...

You're being disingenuous and spurious. Having Claiming special gnosis does not mean being gnostic ([everyone did it]. The whole fucking point [of Carrier and the gnostic scholars he names] is that describing a sect or religion as gnostic or being part of a supposed Gnosticism is as fucking stupid ...

You missed the immediate qualification - Irenaeus’s use of gnostikoi is said to be somewhat confusing, however, since he sometimes seems to apply it to all of the groups he condemns rather than to only one or two sects = the fallacy of composition: attributing qualities or characteristics of parts ...