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- Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Sarah-vs-Hagar allegory in Galatians 4:21–31
- Replies: 28
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The Sarah-vs-Hagar allegory in Galatians 4:21–31
For the purpose of close comparison and study, I have overlaid canonical Galatians 4:21-31, the so-called allegory of Sarah and Hagar, onto Marcion's version of it, as represented in Tertullian's Adversus Marcionem 5.4.8 . Other witnesses to Marcion's text are not considered, for now. I think this i...
- Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Augustine's Confessions: a medieval forgery? (Detering)
- Replies: 41
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Re: Augustine's Confessions: a medieval forgery? (Detering)
Irish1975, I'd separate the two claims, the one that Augustine was not the author of the material from the claim that Anselm was the author. Well and good, since I already separated them for you! The former is reasonably well argued Is it though? the latter is best described as speculation. This te...
- Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Augustine's Confessions: a medieval forgery? (Detering)
- Replies: 41
- Views: 4474
Re: Augustine's Confessions: a medieval forgery? (Detering)
Something here smells. Detering was an intelligent scholar. The Confessions is a minutely-detailed memoir of a time and place that Anselm, 7 centuries later and in England rather than Africa/Italy, could not have invented from his imagination. (Example: the whole chapter about the Manichean teacher ...
- Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Second edition of Carrier's "OHJ" green lighted by Sheffield Academic Press
- Replies: 29
- Views: 4421
Re: Second edition of Carrier's "OHJ" green lighted by Sheffield Academic Press
The man’s publications are beneath my contempt. That’s why I don’t waste my time on him. His publications are trash, having no academic legitimacy, and no impact on anyone who matters, but only his online goons and trolls. The 2nd edition of his book is altogether meaningless to me. And the “Sheffie...
- Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Podcast Why Jesus Most Likely Existed, Tim O'Neill
- Replies: 72
- Views: 8182
Re: Podcast Why Jesus Most Likely Existed, Tim O'Neill
Carrier vs O'Neill, UFC fight.
Guys. It's the only way to settle this.
Guys. It's the only way to settle this.
- Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: evidence for the influence of galatians on 1 peter
- Replies: 5
- Views: 667
Re: evidence for the influence of galatians on 1 peter
In the NT, the "in Christ" phrase is used only by Paul and 1 Peter 1 Peter 3:16 keeping a clear conscience, so that those who slander you will be put to shame by your good behavior in Christ . συνείδησιν ἔχοντες ἀγαθήν ἵνα ἐν ᾧ καταλαλεῖσθε καταισχυνθῶσιν οἱ ἐπηρεάζοντες ὑμῶν τὴν ἀγαθὴν ἐ...
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
- Replies: 10
- Views: 799
Re: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
This contrasts with modern discussion, which often has concentrated on whether Marcion initiated the idea of a ‘New Testament,’ namely the combination of new authoritative writings of different genres into a single, separate, corpus; that he did so has routinely been seen as the converse of his sup...
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
- Replies: 10
- Views: 799
Re: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
I am curious whether anyone can cite a text in refutation of Lieu’s negative claim. I can't. I think Lieu's claim makes sense. The dividing point was over the Creator God, not the texts (until Marcionism was declared a heresy). There are several layers of this topic to consider. Clearly enough, the...
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:25 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
- Replies: 10
- Views: 799
Re: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
And that’s a bad thing?Secret Alias wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:27 pm The study of Marcion immediately becomes a manifestation of the outer limits of knowledge in the humanities. It's one step removed from an attempt to build models of alien languages.
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
- Replies: 10
- Views: 799
BeDuhn vs. Lieu on Marcion’s alleged bible
Judith Lieu and Jason BeDuhn, writing substantial works on Marcion at approximately the same time (about a decade ago), arrive at opposite conclusions about whether Marcion published and/or promoted a “bible” or “canon” or “new testament.” They come at the question differently, but I don’t see how t...