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- Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
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Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
The part of the mystery involving the earthly events of his Jesus (when in the likeness of men) occurred deep in the scriptural past. But the mystery had been recently revealed, in Paul’s time. I find it very hard to read the Pauline epistles as they stand in such a way as to suggest that, for Paul...
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
- Replies: 34
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Re: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
To add..... My interest in this is partly due to having read Daniel Unterbrink's idea that 'someone' was crucified in 21CE (his someone is Judas the Galilean) and that the TF is an overwritten account. I do have reservations, but I think it is correct to say that Josephus does not elsewhere record t...
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
- Replies: 34
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Re: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
I got a comment about the 'alternative' dating of when Pilate took office, possibly rehabilitating the sandwich's location in the received Antiquities . Alas, even if it's OK with respect to time (if Pilate was in office during 19CE after all, so at least the wrapper's date would fit), that doesn't...
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
- Replies: 34
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Re: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
Throwing something else into the mix..... Here is a detailed paper suggesting a possible re-dating of Pilate's tenure back to 19CE on the basis of new archeological/numismatic/metallurgical evidence: http://www.academia.edu/8296217/The_Chronology_and_Tenure_of_Pontius_Pilate_New_Evidence_for_Re-dati...
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:48 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
- Replies: 34
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Re: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
Yes, It was Robert Eisler who drew attention to this , and the Mundus & Paulina episode in the early 1930s (in The Messiah Jesus & John the Baptist , 1933, the abbreviated single volume E.T., by Alexander Krappe, to his German Language Iesous Basileus ou Basileusas , 2 vols. 1929-30), as a ...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
- Replies: 34
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Re: How do we know the ancient Romans didn’t destroy most of the evidence for Jesus?
This is actually a pretty serious issue. I am pretty sure that in Antiquities 18 the events in the governorships of Valerius Gratus and Pontius Pilate have been tampered with (the lengths of their respective periods of office were changed, and probably events removed) in order to remove any possibi...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
- Replies: 247
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Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
Both you and I agree that who saw the Crucifixion (for me: demons; for you: Romans and Jews) didn't realize the true identity of the man on the cross. But Paul in the quoted scripture mentions ''things that are not seen''. ''Things'' here has the meaning of ''facts''. It is the entire ''fact'' of t...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
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Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
Read the passage in context and it's about the revealing of wisdom. I think you are bringing a concern to the reading of the passage (about who saw or didn't see the crucifixion) which is not in the passage or to do with what the passage is about. The passage is apparently about who didn't understa...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
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Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
See from yourself the contradiction your assumptions create. Assume that ''Archons'' = ''Romans & Jews'' and you have: 1 Corinthians 2:6-9 6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; 7 but we speak ...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
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Re: Where is the more strong evidence in Paul pointing to an outer space Jesus
But I am not the only to interpret ''As it is written'' as the Paul's intention of quoting a scripture. If you see here, for example, the words quoted by Paul in verse 9 are put in a different font: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+2%3A6-9&version=NASB That's pretty mu...