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- Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
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Re: How late might the gospels be?
A better thread-topic is "How early might the gospels be?" We should not fall into the fallacy of dating a text by the last item that might have been inserted into it. Scholars think the kernel of Mark is the passion account and may go back at least to the 40's. (Why not even earlier? The...
- Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the four arms of the cross
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1623
Re: On the four arms of the cross
There is also the possibility that 'four' is a pun/metaphor (metafour?) for 'fore'. And of course, 'Forewarned is forearmed' (I'm sure that wisdom can be extracted from some OT verse or other if someone tried hard enough). Is this a hint that Jesus was a militant or terrorist, or at the very least a...
- Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:35 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
- Replies: 126
- Views: 198557
Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
This analysis says nothing about whether what Mark's first readers knew came from historical facts, from legendary tales, or from previous gospel texts. Any or all of those options are left wide open, much in the same way that there are many different ways in which Josephus' readers might have come...
- Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Woman with the Alabaster Jar: Some questions about the Bethany/Anointing narratives in the Gospels.
- Replies: 32
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Re: The Woman with the Alabaster Jar: Some questions about the Bethany/Anointing narratives in the Gospels.
Why does Luke change the anointing from the head to the feet? Is Luke uncomfortable with the anointing of the head because of its latently subversive political/regnal implications? Is he uncomfortable with a woman doing the anointing? Why does Luke alone ignore the issue of the expense of the oil a...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
- Replies: 95
- Views: 80181
Re: The syncretistic origins of Christianity.
Personally, I think your definition of what is and isn't syncretism is rather wider than mine. If you're interested in reviewing some literature around the subject: Syncretism/antisyncretism: The Politics of Religious Synthesis , Stewart and Shaw, 1994 Dialogue and Syncretism , Gort, 1989. Dated an...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140878
Re: How late might the gospels be?
You're right. I apologise, and I take back the calling you being silly (twice I think) and dogmatic (twice I think), presumptious (just the once) and that you were only tossing out flippant gotchas.neilgodfrey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:47 pm Mostly I thought you were just having a go at me for expressing another perspective.
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140878
Re: How late might the gospels be?
I think there's a big difference between expecting an event in one's lifetime on the one hand (Paul) and expecting it to happen within a very few months or a year or two at the most on the other hand (the common/literalist interpretation of Mark 13). Maybe, but that's not got anything much to do wi...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140878
Re: How late might the gospels be?
Why not try something else: study Second Temple era Jewish thought, literature and apocalyptic writings and learn about how different ancient minds understood and wrote about these sorts of things? Possibly. I also hear a site called Vridar might be worth visiting. But then I heard that it's run by...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140878
Re: How late might the gospels be?
We could ask similar questions about Paul. Why worry about extracting financial contributions 'for the church' at such a time, etc. If Mark had simply said what Paul said, that no one knows when, that the day will come without warning or any particular signs (like a thief in the night) then there w...
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How late might the gospels be?
- Replies: 213
- Views: 140878
Re: How late might the gospels be?
What my general theses are has nothing to do with that post, or with many of the exchanges we have had. You seem intent on ignoring the content of or the points in the posts I make to you. I had hoped that that post - http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=81511#p81511 - might encourage...