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- Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter "the Rock" as insult...
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Re: Peter "the Rock" as insult...
This is medieval; but in The Toledot Yeshu according to Agobard Peter is so called due to the severity and dullness of his mind. Andrew Criddle Interesting. Clearly this is based on a reading of the Gospel, and sort of coming up with an alternative account derived from Gospel concepts, but it does ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:46 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John-Mark was "John the Baptist"
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Re: John-Mark was "John the Baptist"
@MrMacSon My contention is that the claim that John the Baptist was killed by Herod is a later modification to the story. In proto-Mark JtB is never killed. He is only driven away. This is also why JtB is never arrested in the Gospel of John, because at the time the first layer of that narrative was...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: John-Mark was "John the Baptist"
- Replies: 4
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John-Mark was "John the Baptist"
Acts of the Apostles contains two Johns: John Zebedee and John-Mark. I contend that canonical Acts of the Apostles is derived from an earlier narrative that was only about Paul. The canonical writer added narrative about the other disciples to the beginning and made numerous other changes. One of th...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
- Replies: 46
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Re: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
Wow (as per dbz's first post on this thread) , Mark 3:18 and Matt 10:4 have, according to online Greek versions, .. Σίμωνα τὸν Καναναῖον .. Simōna ton Kananaion .. Simon the Canaanite . Whereas Luke 6:15 has .. Σίμωνα τὸν καλούμενον Ζηλωτὴν .. Simōna ton kaloumenon Zēlōtēn .. Simon called Zealot . ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:36 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
- Replies: 46
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Re: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
Hi RJ, This is a very compelling hypothesis, and you make some strong points. I was wondering if you had a chance to look at Maricon's gospel, and what it says regarding Judas? Yes, welcome. I've certainly studied Marcion's Gospel, but I'm quite perplexed by it, because my reading of the "orig...
- Tue Aug 06, 2024 1:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
- Replies: 46
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Re: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
So to be clear .. Circa 50 CE, Paul joined an anti-temple-cult that was sectarian and deprecated the national (Jewish nobility) endorsed temple-cult. The Torah observant cult Paul joined may of styled themselves "Brothers of the Lord" with Símōnos/Σίμωνος as the founder/leader. Can you ma...
- Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
- Replies: 46
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Re: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
[W]hy did Peter have a brother with a Greek name who made a highly honoured appearance? [hr] --Godfrey, Neil (22 March 2014). " Why is Peter's Brother, Andrew, Overlooked So Much in the Gospel Narrative? ". Vridar. Actually I think making Andrew Peter's brother was simply a later addition...
- Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter "the Rock" as insult...
- Replies: 31
- Views: 66059
Re: Peter "the Rock" as insult...
Absolutely the main use of the term "rock" in the Jewish scriptures is a positive one. The Lord himself is often referred to as the Rock. It is typically used to signify the mountain of the Lord or a solid foundation upon which faith rests. But we also have: Jeremiah 5: 2 “And although the...
- Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
- Replies: 46
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It was James who betrayed Jesus, not "Judas"
I am increasingly convinced that the original narrative upon which the Gospel of Mark is based was thoroughly against Peter, James and John. The depth of the original story's opposition to these figures should not be underestimated. In the original story, Peter of course abandons Jesus at the end. B...
- Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Peter "the Rock" as insult...
- Replies: 31
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Peter "the Rock" as insult...
I'm curious to know if the term "rock" was used pejoratively in the first and second centuries? I have reason to conclude that the term "Petros" originated with a negative connotation. Were phrases like "dumb as a rock" used at this time? Are there known examples of the...