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- Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Problem With Jesus Being the Christ
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1441
Re: The Problem With Jesus Being the Christ
lol Joel Olsteen. Olsteen and Popoff and Hinn. most outsiders they don't care on these details we think matter here (Chrest/Christ/Thomas) or think it makes much difference, but they see flim flam Christians getting away with it. From a Jewish perspective I'm guessing they see massive difference bet...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: split from: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3316
Re: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
"Barabbas" is the rival Jesus Son of unknown Father, rival to the other Jesus, the Jesus called Chr i stos (or 'king of the Jews' ). Chr e stos emphasizes a marcionite attribute of the Jesus Son of Father: his being the Good God. Hence the discovery of the hot water: that there was a sect...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark's use of Philo
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4686
Re: Mark's use of Philo
or the writings of Philo got reworked and added to well into the 2nd century and reflect opposition to Justin's style of Christianity in these passages. if so it don't tell us much. if a connection can be established so does the direction of dependence surely i mean if its proposed Mark drew from Ph...
- Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark's use of Philo
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4686
Re: Mark's use of Philo
ah, yes well just a thought it reminded me a bit of "life of brian", sort of like a Monty Python sketch this "Maris" is just silly. In Syriac it means 'Lord' I been seeing that word all the time in Syriac everywhere there's a Kyrios, well Mar-ya literally the 's' is a Greek endin...
- Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mark's use of Philo
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4686
Re: Mark's use of Philo
how do you know Philo isn't using Mark? it's not as if we have the virgin manuscript that Philo himself wrote while his wife brought him bagels. No, we have a copy that presumably was in Jewish hands for a century or more. If they objected to any of it (if? what am I saying!) they could easily put i...
- Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:44 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
- Replies: 102
- Views: 22365
Re: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
(1) Along with other names ("spirit," "son," "wisdom," etc), "Christ" was drawn into the vortex of speculation about a second power in heaven. This speculation was based largely on interpretation of the scriptures, and it would perhaps be more surprising if i...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Justin's Two Advents of Christ and the Title Christ
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1378
Re: Justin's Two Advents of Christ and the Title Christ
maybe only the true Messiah would deny he is the Messiah and this is how to tell him apart from the false ones since Jesus denies it, he is the Messiah where 1 John's opponents went wrong then is by denying Jesus was the Messiah they were doing it wrong only Jesus can deny it, you can say he denied ...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Justin's Two Advents of Christ and the Title Christ
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1378
Re: Justin's Two Advents of Christ and the Title Christ
not necessarily. I can see why 'also' though, because automatically think of the Gnostics here (for good reason) But it could be possible to argue Jesus is the Messiah who preached God is the saviour and line up with 1 John's doceticists. but only if they were not 'also' Gnostic! This would be a lit...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Justin's Two Advents of Christ and the Title Christ
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1378
Re: Justin's Two Advents of Christ and the Title Christ
They are accused of having "blasphemed ... Christ." They are schismatics to those who "confessed Him the Christ," believing "the prophecies" were fulfilled in him. It seems credible that they denied "that Jesus is the Christ" (1 John 2:22). As such, in the te...
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: split from: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3316
Re: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
*Ev does n't adopt the position of being anti-messianic. *Ev in the hands of Marcion is used as a gospel adopting the position of being anti-messianic. What was sufficient and necessary for a such use of *Ev by Marcion was what Wrede has called the "Messianic Secret in Mark" and what Trob...