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by davidmartin
Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark’s Use of Psalm 22 --- A Davidic Jesus?
Replies: 11
Views: 1527

Re: Mark’s Use of Psalm 22 --- A Davidic Jesus?

I tend to see it the other way around. These events provide confirmation that Jesus is the Messiah even if they are not occurring in the expected way That's how I see it too. Mark had to somehow explain why Jesus is the “Christ”. I'm assuming that's the tradition the gospels are working from. A Mes...
by davidmartin
Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark’s Use of Psalm 22 --- A Davidic Jesus?
Replies: 11
Views: 1527

Re: Mark’s Use of Psalm 22 --- A Davidic Jesus?

The author of GMark pushes back against the concept of a Davidic Jesus throughout his story. And the expectations of a king-like figure riding into Jerusalem on a young foal (Mark 11:1-7, Zechariah 9:9), and the expectations expressed by the crowd of a kingly redeemer, “Blessed is the coming of our...
by davidmartin
Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Problem of Paul and Marcionism
Replies: 102
Views: 87387

Re: The Problem of Paul and Marcionism

Ebion, you mention negating the law being antinomian do you see a difference between simply 'fulfilling' the spirit of it and negating it as obsolete entirely? would you see the former being the gospel Jesus message and the latter being the epistles? this is how I tend to see it. I'm interested if y...
by davidmartin
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Forget the Myth of Jesus
Replies: 41
Views: 17982

Re: Forgery of Acts

To be fair, I created the title. I suggest reading SA's posts to get a better sense of what he's saying. If it's not there, I guess ask questions. The fourth post in this thread is the starting point, which links to the earlier conversation. No need to hand hold all I saw was a bunch of posts by SA...
by davidmartin
Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Forget the Myth of Jesus
Replies: 41
Views: 17982

Re: Forgery of Acts

SA, a lot of people think it's early-mid 2nd century and not literally historical so it's not forged in one sense, it's a genuine 2nd century work of idealised history that doesn't tell us much about the first century but a whole lot about the time it was written for i think that's how critical scho...
by davidmartin
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 33
Views: 3320

Re: On the use of "historicists" to label the people absolutely persuaded about the historicity of Jesus

Joking aside... I don't think the statement "not only mythicists require an 'other' against whom [to] define themselves" is empirically true. I have seen a lot of books that don't ackowledge a non-HJ idea (while acknowledging ideas that require a HJ) but I have never seen a no-HJ book tha...
by davidmartin
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Authenticity of Philemon
Replies: 16
Views: 4404

Re: Authenticity of Philemon

why do i have this mental image of you editing a single A4 page?!
by davidmartin
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:04 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 469
Views: 158129

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

It appears the usage of 'Chrest' forms is greatest in the epistles. I post the relevant section from ML's book below Whatever the meaning 'Chrest' has, one thing it cannot be is the Jewish Messiah who is 'Christ' in the LXX This suggests the epistles originate among proto-orthodox Christians who hav...
by davidmartin
Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: minor spellings aside, any proposed cult of "Jesus the Good" evidence?
Replies: 143
Views: 18841

Re: minor spellings aside, any proposed cult of "Jesus the Good" evidence?

For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain 'Christ' is being treated like a quality here. 'to live is good/useful and to die is gain' i believe i was suggesting a Marcionite influence on 'Chrest' to distinguish from the Messiah (i do not say this proves which is earlier usage) also, the epistl...
by davidmartin
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: minor spellings aside, any proposed cult of "Jesus the Good" evidence?
Replies: 143
Views: 18841

Re: minor spellings aside, any proposed cult of "Jesus the Good" evidence?

I can't understand your mere claim and you don't give any reasons for it. The Greek word here is εὐωδία, which can best be translated as pleasant smell. It is obvious that an anointed one smells good, while this does not have to be the case with a good person and does not suggest itself as a metaph...