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by mlinssen
Thu May 04, 2023 12:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Have any scholars who claim that the Gospels' narratives originated as oral traditions studied oral traditions?
Replies: 81
Views: 10308

Re: Have any scholars who claim that the Gospels' narratives originated as oral traditions studied oral traditions?

It is well to keep in mind that the third evangelist explicitly announces to his readers that "those who, from the beginning, were witnesses and servants of the word" have passed their information along to himself (the evangelist). Different readings are possible, but on a plain reading h...
by mlinssen
Thu May 04, 2023 12:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christians think Jesus existed
Replies: 31
Views: 2774

Re: Christians think Jesus existed

It couldn't possibly get more mistaken than that really. I wholeheartedly agree with david, and the core trick of the NT is to change it all into a carrot of physical afterlife instead . Philip is about spiritual resurrection, undoubtedly *Ev also was, and indeed John is. Paul explicitly counters th...
by mlinssen
Thu May 04, 2023 4:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature
Replies: 77
Views: 26297

Re: Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature

IMO, though, I mostly disagree with taking the delusional (?) putatively-separate "Chrestianity" seriously. Ah, dear Stephen, your eloquent arguments are compellingly convincing as usual! "Mostly" does attract and intrigue though: what part of Chrestianity do you agree with? Tha...
by mlinssen
Wed May 03, 2023 12:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christians think Jesus existed
Replies: 31
Views: 2774

Re: Christians think Jesus existed

It all depends upon what sort of Christianity you were raised in. For me it's largely irrelevant. My father, the late right reverend, taught two basic principles: the NT is entirely allegorical (including Acts he emphasized), and heaven is life with God (not a fairyland after death; death is also t...
by mlinssen
Wed May 03, 2023 12:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why are the mythicists not interested about the reasons of the dating under Pilate?
Replies: 21
Views: 2114

Re: Why are the mythicists not interested about the reasons of the dating under Pilate?

By using deepl, I translate: die Entwickelung des Heilswerks historisch zu gestalten, verlangte es die Abrundung der geschichtlichen Anschauung, daß man auch den Anfang des Heils erwies, d. h. den Zeitpunkt fixirte, wo der Herr den Täufer ablöste und an seine Aufgabe ging. ...so: In order to shape ...
by mlinssen
Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christians think Jesus existed
Replies: 31
Views: 2774

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

I've watched most of Rabbi Singer's video's, he really highlights how misquoted the scripture is in the NT he turned up a lot more examples than i was aware of. Like psalm 2 'kiss the Son' in the NIV, the mangling of Jeremiah in Hebrews 8, Paul's misquoting of muzzling an ox, and the 'seed' of Gala...
by mlinssen
Wed May 03, 2023 2:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christians think Jesus existed
Replies: 31
Views: 2774

Christians think Jesus existed

Of course no rabbi believes in anything about any Jesus, although it is evident that Paul didn't need an IS to wreck Judaism, he bases all of it on XS, and even his interpretation of that I've watched most of Rabbi Singer's video's, he really highlights how misquoted the scripture is in the NT he t...
by mlinssen
Wed May 03, 2023 12:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christians think Jesus existed
Replies: 31
Views: 2774

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Christians think he existed, so too do the Rabbi's I watch on youtube (eg Rabbi Singer) I can't see the idea he never existed ever being more than a fringe theory when the major players simply just think he did and are far more interested in what he might have said or meant. I was watching Rabbi Si...
by mlinssen
Wed May 03, 2023 12:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bruno Bauer's works now in English
Replies: 49
Views: 6055

Re: Bruno Bauer's works now in English

If you need help with any German just holler, I'm near-native Much of the damage is done but if you happen to see any aggravatingly poor translations I have posted do please let me know so I can correct/improve anything. Will do. I'll certainly not read it back to back but I'll have a peek here and...
by mlinssen
Tue May 02, 2023 7:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Have any scholars who claim that the Gospels' narratives originated as oral traditions studied oral traditions?
Replies: 81
Views: 10308

Re: Have any scholars who claim that the Gospels' narratives originated as oral traditions studied oral traditions?

Thomas Brodie had quite a bit to say about how oral tradition was applied in New Testament studies. Synopses here: Oral Tradition Behind Gospels and OT: Unfounded, Unworkable and Unnecessary Oral Tradition is Unfounded: from Kelber to Koester Oral Tradition in NT Studies is Unworkable Oral Traditio...