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In other words, if Matthew and Luke are drawing from Thomas, they are not independently drawing from Thomas; therefore, Thomas cannot replace Q here (by the definition of Q which I gave from Kloppenborg). If it happens that either Matthew or Luke is drawing from Thomas, but that the two are not dra...

Okay, but none of this matters for whether Thomas can replace Q, because you have not factored Matthew into the mix. The very fact that Matthew and Luke both have a set of beatitudes, with Matthew's list swallowing Luke's whole, all together at the beginning of an inaugural speech means something. ...

The question of " how much of Thomas could there be in Q " is an easy one and a difficult one. Difficult, because of the underlying assumption of dependence of either. Observe, for instance, QS 8. On Those who are Fortunate (Mack, The Lost Gospel): QS 8. On Those who are Fortunate (6:20) H...

Wouldn't it have been at least feasible to strike the material in Thomas from the hypothetical Q, thus creating a smaller "q"? Taking into account both common content or wording and common sequencing or order in the double tradition, how much of Q do you think Thomas can account for? (Ser...

to mlinssen, (Bernard wrote:) In-depth & documented research on the historical Jesus and the beginning of Christianity, from available evidence & critical methodology Evidence for Q is not necessarily a papyrus or parchment written with exclusively Q text. Evidence can be deducted, in case ...

You are using a definition of Q which is neither the original one nor the one generally used by Q specialists. Here is what perhaps the most respected Q specialist has to say about what Q is: John S. Kloppenborg, Q, the Earliest Gospel , page 20: 20 It must be reiterated at this point that scholars...

A question that I've often wondered about, given the fact that roughly half of Q is in Thomas - how much did people expect to find, really, given that Q, and then naturally I mean its recreation, as it's never been found (nor mentioned) and never will be found if you ask me, is filled to the rim wit...

to mlinssen, Hi Bernard, you missed the most burning question: Both Luke (16:13) and Matthew (6:24) will prove that they had access to the complete logion when they use the two masters metaphor at a later point. Could you comment on that please? Thanks "Luke" and "Matthew" copie...

Mark 4:21 He said to them, "Is the lamp brought to be put under a basket or under a bed ? Isn't it put on a stand? https://biblehub.com/greek/3426.htm Luke 8:16 "No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a container, or puts it under a bed ; but puts it on a stand, that those who ent...

to mlinssen, And Thomas finds those verses, harmonises them, adds them to the longer versions, adds the old wine in new bags phrase, and then, as if all that weren't enough, prefixes the entire logion with the two bows Seriously. How likely is that to have happened? Bernard? It's about logion 47. W...