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- Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
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Re: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points
The Pauline writer specifically identified his Jesus as a Mythological man made of Spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45 KJV And so it is written , The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit [/b] Adam was a Myth character in Genesis and the Pauline Jesus is both Myth...
- Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
- Replies: 60
- Views: 126967
Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E
At Rev 11:2, Jerusalem is referred as "the holy city", not "the great city". Cordially, Bernard At Rev. 11.8 Jerusalem is the great city. Jerusalem is the great city where Jesus was crucified--Not Rome. The passage is self-explanatory. Revelation 11:8 NIV Their bodies will lie i...
- Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 172680
Re: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points
In favor of an ultra minimalist & non-Christian historicist position on Jesus (from a revised posting of mine on Richard Carrier's blog): “In Paul’s epistles & ‘Hebrews’, Jesus is described as a descendant of Abraham (Galatians l3:16), Israelites (Romans 9:4-5), the tribe of Judah (Hebrews ...
- Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
- Replies: 60
- Views: 126967
Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E
Spiritual Sodom and Egypt most likely refers to Rome. And the Lord crucified is God himself, figuratively wounded because of the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem and the killing/enslavement of many Jews (by the Romans). Rev 11:8 is part of an entirely Jewish apocalypse written soon after 70 C...
- Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 172680
Re: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
The Pauline Gospel was invented after gMark's and is not even found in the Septuagint. gMark's Gospel, Good News, was that the kingdom of God [A New Jerusalem] was coming soon which was supposedly predicted in Isaiah 65. There would be no death, pain, sorrow or crying in the New Jerusalem. But, now ...
- Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish conflict
- Replies: 106
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Re: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish
It will be noticed that those who argue for a pre 70 CE Jesus cult of Christians hardly present any supporting evidence for their position but are constantly ridiculing others who argue for a post c 70 CE Jesus cult. The very first thing that must be understood is that all Gospels are forgeries or f...
- Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
- Replies: 126
- Views: 172680
The Pauline Gospel was a Late Invention
Markan Priority is the theory that gMark was the earliest version of the Jesus story in the Canon. Once gMark is accepted as the earliest Gospel in the Canon then it is imperative that it is clearly understood what was the earliest Good News. gMark was written about the beginning of the Gospel of Je...
- Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: new nonsense from Joe Atwill
- Replies: 14
- Views: 34247
Re: new nonsense from Joe Atwill
Unless Atwill has some secret evidence then there is no known evidence that the Romans invented the Jesus Christ character. Up to at least c 133 CE the Romans fought with those who expected a Messianic ruler. The Romans Hijacked the religion of the Jesus cult sometime in 4th century and made Jesus t...
- Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is Against the Galileans a Composite?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 29100
Re: Is Against the Galileans a Composite?
You imply that "Against the Galileans" is a forgery or manipulated [a composite job] and I will show that your claims are not logical unless the forgers were complete idiots. .... But the heavy emphasis on (undefined) Christian concepts in the second half of the book stands in contrast to ...
- Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is Against the Galileans a Composite?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 29100
Re: Is Against the Galileans a Composite?
What is confusing about this statement in the opening paragraph of "Against the Galileans"? It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind [/b] the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. [/b] Though it has ...