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Bernard_Muller wrote: ... OTHERS started Christianities after his execution.

I agree with using the plural - Christianities - there seems to have been a lot of messianic cults at that time.

Wasn't this the position of the Adoptionists? Jesus was a mere man until the Spirit of God descended upon him in the form of a dove and unified him with the Godhead. Later church theologians rejected this approach for various reasons, mainly because the Christ of the Pauline letters was clearly a p...

Over on the Bible and Interpretation site some interesting questions are being asked..... If the Doherty/Carrier theory is correct then there must have been a sudden and radical change in people's understanding of Jesus. Wouldn't this have given rise to disagreement? There is no evidence of it. A s...

However if you do the same thing on Jesus' story from gMark [take all the extraordinary elements out], and even take out some more, what is left is enough (with the historical, political & religious context) to explain how this Jesus triggered the beginning of Christianity after his execution. ...

. I think this proposal is highly plausible >>>> (one or more of the Dutch Radicals says the same - AD Loman?) ... the Nicene Creed ... that came about due to ongoing debates as to the nature of the gospel Jesus ... how to link the two NT stories. The gospel story about a human, assumed, Jesus - and...

... The NT story is what it is - from Jesus to Paul. Attempts to rewrite this story - from Paul to Jesus - will not sell. [snip] The Pauline story offers no security for investment - whatsoever; ideas come and they go...... no stability, only the uncertainties of the free market of ideas.... It doe...

. I think this is a salient, highly-plausible proposal >> (I have made some subtle text & punctuation changes which Diogenes the Cynic may disagree with) The answer to this is that religious conversion is driven by "compensators", not by narrative. It's not the story, it's the promised...

all these references to "scientific" - surely that is a category error: not much around theology is 'scientific' Mr MacSon, no, it is not a category error to describe the scientific facts which give rise to theological imagination. I agree. But I still contend that science & theology ...

1 Corinthians 2:8 'None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.' Did Paul think Jesus was the Lord of glory when he was crucified? Or only after he had been crucified? If the Pauline texts were redacted, even just once, how would we...

all these references to "scientific" - surely that is a category error: not much around theology is 'scientific'