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by neilgodfrey
Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:46 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
Replies: 161
Views: 37408

Re: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria

Early mss show, e.g., differences between those aligned with Samaritan Pentateuch and some others. No no -- play fair and don't keep shifting the goal posts - again. You wrote: Above, I (SG) wrote, in part: "The Plato as interpreted by REG program was that differing views would disappear."...
by neilgodfrey
Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:39 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?
Replies: 76
Views: 27382

Re: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?

Our first copy of Plato is the third century CE. Why all this false excitement about essentially boring things. If you had read the responses to this objection of yours in previous threads you would know that there is independent evidence for the existence of certain writings long before their olde...
by neilgodfrey
Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:37 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?
Replies: 76
Views: 27382

Re: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?

. . . .but what I'm getting at is that its not just a Hellenistic era work, it is a work that is advocating for an independent Jewish state. So it has to have been written at a time when there was a prospect for an independent Jewish state. But describing an ideal state is not the same thing as &qu...
by neilgodfrey
Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Enough Criticism!! Why the naked slutboy in Mark 14:51?
Replies: 55
Views: 9864

Re: Enough Criticism!! Why the naked slutboy in Mark 14:51?

imho if you read GMark like a story and you would have absolutely no knowledge of other gospels or interpretations, then you might, contrary to all the predictions of Jesus, consider it more likely that Jesus just died. In any case, as a reader one would probably be just as surprised as the women a...
by neilgodfrey
Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:20 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?
Replies: 76
Views: 27382

Re: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?

Even if we take the legal material in Exodus to be nothing more than the precepts laid out in the Communist Manifesto, just idealistic theorizing, why would someone in the Persian era be doing this theorizing? Are we to argue that Jews in the Persian era were making designs to rebel and break free ...
by neilgodfrey
Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How much probable is that the suetonian "impulsore Chresto" is a reference to the Jewish Messiah?
Replies: 50
Views: 16777

Re: How much probable is that the suetonian "impulsore Chresto" is a reference to the Jewish Messiah?

Fwiw, I paste here a passage in an article I am currently reading to grapple with an entirely different question from the Jews of the Claudian era -- but the following passage reminded me of this thread: The reference to the instigation of Chrestus by Suetonius 15 is (hesitantly) taken by Barclay as...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Zelinski's view of the Birth of Christianity from the Spirit of the Roman Empire
Replies: 14
Views: 1053

Re: Zelinski's view of the Birth of Christianity from the Spirit of the Roman Empire

Jesus was situated in the early first century to overcome all the other deified supreme deities Luke 2:1 has Jesus explicitly being born in the reign of Caesar Augustus. References to Jesus being 30 years old (apocryphal), or not yet fifty (John), or born in the time of Herod (Matthew) also put his...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:52 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?
Replies: 76
Views: 27382

Re: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?

rgprice wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:24 pmBut actual implementation of the precepts of the Pentateuch would had to have waited until the Hasmonean era.
If what the scholars say about the other law codes then it may be hard to think they are even aspirational. They were entirely idealistic it would appear.
by neilgodfrey
Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:49 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?
Replies: 76
Views: 27382

Re: Is exclusive Yahwehism even plausible prior to the Hasmonaeans?

One more point --- if I have understood you correctly, you are hinting at the time of the Hasmoneans for the composition of the Pentateuch's laws. Russell Gmirkin has posted a neat little summary of the data that sets a lowest possible date for the Pentateuch at https://earlywritings.com/forum/view...
by neilgodfrey
Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Enough Criticism!! Why the naked slutboy in Mark 14:51?
Replies: 55
Views: 9864

Re: Enough Criticism!! Why the naked slutboy in Mark 14:51?

I think I should bow out at this point --- I am only repeating my same points -- others have a different view for assessing grounds for authenticity. They may be right -- I don't know -- but now I'm repeating myself still again!