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by neilgodfrey
Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?
Replies: 108
Views: 75706

Re: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?

As I said before, though, I wasn't really trying to single Hurtado out personally, but just use him as an exemplar of academia's acceptance of supernaturalism in Biblical scholars while writing off mythicists as nutters. Hurtado made a bit of a do some months back about being the keynote speaker at...
by neilgodfrey
Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?
Replies: 108
Views: 75706

Re: Why the Certainty on the Part of Mythicists?

Diogenes the Cynic wrote: But Hartado isn't talking about what Christians believed, he's asserting that Jesus literally did appear in the sky historically.
Can you tell me where he makes this clear, please?

Thanks,
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by neilgodfrey
Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
Replies: 169
Views: 124765

Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.

Ehrman is trying to show that the deification of kings and perceived holy men was commonplace in the ancient world, and his examples are solid. The only flaw is his insistence that Jesus was executed for claiming to be the King of the Jews, but the general idea that real people got deified after de...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger
Replies: 66
Views: 64363

Re: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger

Wouldn't literary criticism be more a tool for glimpsing at who wrote the texts? No. Literary historical criticism is a gateway to audiences, evolution and development of ideas, and related or background historical circumstances. If we don't know who wrote something we don't know who wrote it. Fwiw...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger
Replies: 66
Views: 64363

Re: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger

I don't know that early Christians could have developed their faith with the bounds of mere 'literary criticism.' Jesus was a figure - whether earthly or heavenly we have yet to determine - who was thought to transform or save the faithful. I don't think this transformation could have taken place w...
by neilgodfrey
Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 257335

Re: Loaves and Fishes

The parables only have one meaning. Jesus explained what that one meaning was. Anything else is eisegesis. Do you really believe that? Allegorical reading of parables produces a range of meanings, and these meanings can be in the original intent rather than just being the presuppositions, agendas a...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 257335

Re: Loaves and Fishes

I made a mistake there and said Pisces and Gemini were in a positive sextile relationship. That was wrong, of course. They are actually in a negative square relationship. But that's even better because it is a sign that the influence of Stephanie on Maurice was for a negative purpose -- it led to th...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 257335

Re: Loaves and Fishes

To illustrate the fallacy of making parallels from excerpts as is done by the "astrotheologians", I have taken the opening sentences of Casey's new book. . . . This book is a sort of sequel to jesus of Nazareth (T&T Clark International, 2010). When I finished it, Stephanie Fisher persu...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Loaves and Fishes
Replies: 322
Views: 257335

Re: Loaves and Fishes

Parallelomania was the term introduced to English language NT studies by Samuel Sandmel. He defined parallelomania as: that extravagance among scholars which first overdoes the supposed similarity in passages and then proceeds to describe source and derivation as if implying literary connection flow...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger
Replies: 66
Views: 64363

Re: Earthly Stranger vs Heavenly Stranger

I don't see how it matters to the historicity question whether Jesus is portrayed as an entirely mortal human or someone from heaven. Adam, Jonah and Job are portrayed as entirely human, too. The starting point as I see it is to begin with the Jesus we know: the literary Jesus. My understanding is t...