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by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Replies: 43
Views: 37540

Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism

But the argument that the Pastorals is fake develops out of the idea that some letters are authentic. N'est ce pas? So too with the Marcionite claim that someone adulterated a body of letters which was supposed be authentic. I am hardly opposed to the idea that early Christian material is full of f...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Replies: 43
Views: 37540

Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism

Well, let's see The Pastorals are not written by Paul. So that's a lie. Colossians was not written by Paul. Another lie. Ephesians was not written by Paul. Another lie. 2 Thessalonians was not written by Paul. Another lie. Hebrews was not written by Paul. Another lie. Lacedemonians was not written b...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Replies: 43
Views: 37540

Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism

Nevertheless in this unexplored territory that 'mythicism' is it is too early too draw firm conclusions about anything. I am the furthest thing from being a 'historicist' but I can't help but feel that 'mythicist' has no right to go beyond 'maybe.' Some mythicists are driven by wholly emotional or ...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Replies: 43
Views: 37540

Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism

But still, are we to suppose that the Catholics made up the argument between Peter and Paul? This comes awfully close to, "I can't think of a reason why Catholics would make up an argument between Peter and Paul, therefore the letters are wholly authentic." It's probably all second centur...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Replies: 43
Views: 37540

Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism

Exactly Blood. It may be difficult to determine what was historical. But surely something was historical. There was a historical argument right? That argument took place at the very beginning of Christianity, right? I can entertain very radical suppositions. I am not sure how much of Galatians 1 an...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Replies: 43
Views: 37540

Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism

"Since we have only Paul's autobiographical remarks and not his opponents' accusations, which the consensus assumes provoked them, it is necessary to exercise restraint in asserting too confidently that specific charges actually existed, much less what they may have been. Even the existence of ...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Replies: 422
Views: 460858

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Argument From the Irreconcilability of Jesus's Biography with the Religious Biographies and Hero-Stories of His Day by R. Joseph Hoffman 1. The details of Jesus’s life were completely unsuited to the religious biographies and hero-stories of his day. 2. I'm just going to handwave away the fact that...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Replies: 422
Views: 460858

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Argument From the Singularity of Healing (That Was Really Just Compassion When You Remove The Miraculous Element) by R. Joseph Hoffmann 1. The gospels say that Jesus cared for the poor, sick, and marginalized 2. There's nothing else like this in ancient literature 3. Therefore, the gospel stories a...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Full Commentary on Reza Aslan's "Zealot" (2013)
Replies: 11
Views: 15864

Re: Full Commentary on Reza Aslan's "Zealot" (2013)

Azlan stated that lestai was "the most common Roman designation for an insurrectionist or rebel." He is just copying this term from Josephus and assuming Roman soldiers used the same term. And by "the Romans," he is strongly implying ethnic Italians, not all the different ethnici...
by Blood
Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Replies: 422
Views: 460858

Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

ARGUMENT FROM FALSE ALTERNATIVES
(1) If you say Jesus didn't exist, that's the same thing as saying Julius Caesar didn't exist
(2) You aren't actually going to claim that Julius Caesar didn't exist, are you?
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed.