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- Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
- Replies: 43
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Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
But the argument that the Pastorals is fake develops out of the idea that some letters are authentic. N'est ce pas? So too with the Marcionite claim that someone adulterated a body of letters which was supposed be authentic. I am hardly opposed to the idea that early Christian material is full of f...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37540
Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Well, let's see The Pastorals are not written by Paul. So that's a lie. Colossians was not written by Paul. Another lie. Ephesians was not written by Paul. Another lie. 2 Thessalonians was not written by Paul. Another lie. Hebrews was not written by Paul. Another lie. Lacedemonians was not written b...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37540
Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Nevertheless in this unexplored territory that 'mythicism' is it is too early too draw firm conclusions about anything. I am the furthest thing from being a 'historicist' but I can't help but feel that 'mythicist' has no right to go beyond 'maybe.' Some mythicists are driven by wholly emotional or ...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37540
Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
But still, are we to suppose that the Catholics made up the argument between Peter and Paul? This comes awfully close to, "I can't think of a reason why Catholics would make up an argument between Peter and Paul, therefore the letters are wholly authentic." It's probably all second centur...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37540
Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
Exactly Blood. It may be difficult to determine what was historical. But surely something was historical. There was a historical argument right? That argument took place at the very beginning of Christianity, right? I can entertain very radical suppositions. I am not sure how much of Galatians 1 an...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37540
Re: The Best Argument Against Nihilistic Mythicism
"Since we have only Paul's autobiographical remarks and not his opponents' accusations, which the consensus assumes provoked them, it is necessary to exercise restraint in asserting too confidently that specific charges actually existed, much less what they may have been. Even the existence of ...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
- Replies: 422
- Views: 460858
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Argument From the Irreconcilability of Jesus's Biography with the Religious Biographies and Hero-Stories of His Day by R. Joseph Hoffman 1. The details of Jesus’s life were completely unsuited to the religious biographies and hero-stories of his day. 2. I'm just going to handwave away the fact that...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
- Replies: 422
- Views: 460858
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Argument From the Singularity of Healing (That Was Really Just Compassion When You Remove The Miraculous Element) by R. Joseph Hoffmann 1. The gospels say that Jesus cared for the poor, sick, and marginalized 2. There's nothing else like this in ancient literature 3. Therefore, the gospel stories a...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Full Commentary on Reza Aslan's "Zealot" (2013)
- Replies: 11
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Re: Full Commentary on Reza Aslan's "Zealot" (2013)
Azlan stated that lestai was "the most common Roman designation for an insurrectionist or rebel." He is just copying this term from Josephus and assuming Roman soldiers used the same term. And by "the Romans," he is strongly implying ethnic Italians, not all the different ethnici...
- Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
- Replies: 422
- Views: 460858
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
ARGUMENT FROM FALSE ALTERNATIVES
(1) If you say Jesus didn't exist, that's the same thing as saying Julius Caesar didn't exist
(2) You aren't actually going to claim that Julius Caesar didn't exist, are you?
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed.
(1) If you say Jesus didn't exist, that's the same thing as saying Julius Caesar didn't exist
(2) You aren't actually going to claim that Julius Caesar didn't exist, are you?
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed.